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Depends on where you're looking to work. If you're looking for startups there isn't a huge number of .NET startups. (I work for one) But the ones there are are

Depends on where you're looking to work. If you're looking for startups there isn't a huge number of .NET startups. (I work for one) But the ones there are are usually ok with someone working on a Linux dev environment. If you're looking for an enterprise job most non-tech enterprise companies still require development on a Windows machine because they require everyone to use a Windows machine.

aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
I would argue there's a huge number of .NET startups that aren't being talked about because it's still not considered "sexy", super compact, or other stuff like that — even though lots of new hotness is being added all the time.
- uticus 4y ago
  Yeah .NET never shows up high on the wish list, but surely it's because .NET has been historically tied to Windows. I'm wondering if it still is in fact tied to Windows - because even though developers can use .NET without Windows, they are not for whatever reason. Don't know if this is true or not, but it is what I'm asking here.
  - torginus 4y ago
    I develop cloud stuff in .NET that runs in a Docker container, and I'm using Windows - it's not that anything ties me to the platform, but having tried Linux and Mac, on all environments I'd be running minikube with a VM. It's just that Windows isn't worse at this kind of stuff that other OSes are. I've developed on all 3 major OSes, and all of them have some kind of drawback (though I have to admit, since M1, Apple hardware is miles ahead of the competition).
  - aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
    "Is it still tied to Windows/what kind of edge-pain can I expect on my Fedora machine?" "Microsoft people said EEE, using Microsoft- led projects is nonstarter." "Are you going to pay me the time to relearn x,y,z in dotnetland?"
  - WorldMaker 4y ago
    I think a lot of the reason .NET isn't yet used that broadly beyond Windows is as much leftover distrust/paranoia at Microsoft than anything technical. I tried to get involved in Mono-based Open Source back in the day and it left a lot of lasting sourness at the "Linux community" and how distrustful/paranoid it could be. Despite Mono being open source. Despite however many open patent agreements Microsoft signed. There was so much ugliness and so many people I encountered had a lot of passion for "Never .NET". I hope that changes for the community. .NET doesn't get any more Open Source today. There's no longer a .NET/Mono split, they've merged. The open patent agreements with the .NET Foundation and other stewardship orgs are about as rock solid as they can possibly get. I cynically saw so much "Never .NET" hate in that community that I can't imagine it won't linger for long past its expiration date.
- decafninja 4y ago
  I'm not sure if I agree. If a startup itself was "sexy", it would show up in discussions regardless of what tech stack it was using. That they don't show up is more indicative that there aren't that many in the first place IMHO. Speaking as a former .NET developer, something that impedes searching for a .NET job that isn't at a huge, crufty, old school enterprise company is that the vast majority of .NET jobs are at such companies. So you have to sift through all of those to find something that doesn't fit that mold.
  - solarkraft 4y ago
    > If a startup itself was "sexy", it would show up in discussions regardless of what tech stack it was using Yeah, but you wouldn't necessarily notice that they're using .Net.

aaaaaaaaata 4y ago

I would argue there's a huge number of .NET startups that aren't being talked about because it's still not considered "sexy", super compact, or other stuff like that — even though lots of new hotness is being added all the time.

uticus 4y ago
Yeah .NET never shows up high on the wish list, but surely it's because .NET has been historically tied to Windows. I'm wondering if it still is in fact tied to Windows - because even though developers can use .NET without Windows, they are not for whatever reason. Don't know if this is true or not, but it is what I'm asking here.
- torginus 4y ago
  I develop cloud stuff in .NET that runs in a Docker container, and I'm using Windows - it's not that anything ties me to the platform, but having tried Linux and Mac, on all environments I'd be running minikube with a VM. It's just that Windows isn't worse at this kind of stuff that other OSes are. I've developed on all 3 major OSes, and all of them have some kind of drawback (though I have to admit, since M1, Apple hardware is miles ahead of the competition).
- aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
  "Is it still tied to Windows/what kind of edge-pain can I expect on my Fedora machine?" "Microsoft people said EEE, using Microsoft- led projects is nonstarter." "Are you going to pay me the time to relearn x,y,z in dotnetland?"
- WorldMaker 4y ago
  I think a lot of the reason .NET isn't yet used that broadly beyond Windows is as much leftover distrust/paranoia at Microsoft than anything technical. I tried to get involved in Mono-based Open Source back in the day and it left a lot of lasting sourness at the "Linux community" and how distrustful/paranoid it could be. Despite Mono being open source. Despite however many open patent agreements Microsoft signed. There was so much ugliness and so many people I encountered had a lot of passion for "Never .NET". I hope that changes for the community. .NET doesn't get any more Open Source today. There's no longer a .NET/Mono split, they've merged. The open patent agreements with the .NET Foundation and other stewardship orgs are about as rock solid as they can possibly get. I cynically saw so much "Never .NET" hate in that community that I can't imagine it won't linger for long past its expiration date.
decafninja 4y ago
I'm not sure if I agree. If a startup itself was "sexy", it would show up in discussions regardless of what tech stack it was using. That they don't show up is more indicative that there aren't that many in the first place IMHO. Speaking as a former .NET developer, something that impedes searching for a .NET job that isn't at a huge, crufty, old school enterprise company is that the vast majority of .NET jobs are at such companies. So you have to sift through all of those to find something that doesn't fit that mold.
- solarkraft 4y ago
  > If a startup itself was "sexy", it would show up in discussions regardless of what tech stack it was using Yeah, but you wouldn't necessarily notice that they're using .Net.