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A quick informal poll for devs stuck with agile out there: After scrum, do you: 1. Immediately get to work 2. Spend time going through recent communications

A quick informal poll for devs stuck with agile out there: After scrum, do you: 1. Immediately get to work 2. Spend time going through recent communications 3. Walk away from the keyboard to decompress ?

Karawebnetwork 4y ago
3. Burn through my 15 minutes morning paid break to go make some breakfast or coffee and decompress. The scrum is rarely a productive meeting, it is more of an outlet for the extroverts of the team to talk. As an introvert, this tires me. Often the people in question don't even take breaks themselves. I wish they would take their break to have that small talk so I could keep my break for a better time. This seems generalized to all teams I've worked in across several companies.
Cloudef 4y ago
https://toggl.com/blog/mars-software-development https://toggl.com/blog/mars-software-development Very much related
marcosdumay 4y ago
> After scrum You mean the daily standup? Scrum is a full process. There's no "after", no "before". It's a steady state. (Anyway, I need to decompress almost all meetings I have, of any kind.)
- MisterBastahrd 4y ago
  Yeah... I meant standup but by the time I realized what I wrote, I couldn't go back and edit it.
nonameiguess 4y ago
I tend to wake up really early and get straight to work, so by the time scrum comes around, I've already gotten 3-4 hours in, but haven't yet eaten or showered, so that's what I do next.
- Unbeliever69 4y ago
  Love the remote life! What would this look like if you were working in an office?
t43562 4y ago
We put our standup after lunch if that's what you mean, because some developers are in the US and it's morning for them. It lets most of us get a quite peaceful morning of work in - somehow it spawns less meetings. Afterwards there are usually meetings about issues raised in the standup or just others or just back to what we were doing. Standups shouldn't be stressful and if they are it's a bad sign of the way the team is working. We should be able to say what's going on without feeling we'll get jumped on for it.
JustSomePackets 4y ago
Working in a IT project/consulting company it varies a lot depending on team members and client. The agile manifesto is just about trying to add value through work, iterating on smaller chunks of work, iterating on your ways of working, semi-regularly spending some time with the team reviewing how things are working out, and adapt accordingly. Scrum on the other hand is a framework of meetings, roles, rule, and a common language that help heavily process oriented companies/people dip their toes in. A first step if you will, then you iterate to make it your own. Unfortunately, some people "swallow the manual" and take it far too inflexibly. Or deity forbid some business transformation consultancy sells your upper-management the Scaled Agile Framework and its time to polish off the old CV. So depending on where the particular project lies on a scale of understanding between those two: any and all of the above. Standup is not meant to be stressful, it's just meant to be a forum to raise issues, but some people insist on pulling teeth.
dogcomplex 4y ago
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corpMaverick 4y ago
3.- I am most productive before the stand up. The stand up really burns my energy.

Karawebnetwork 4y ago

3. Burn through my 15 minutes morning paid break to go make some breakfast or coffee and decompress. The scrum is rarely a productive meeting, it is more of an outlet for the extroverts of the team to talk. As an introvert, this tires me. Often the people in question don't even take breaks themselves. I wish they would take their break to have that small talk so I could keep my break for a better time. This seems generalized to all teams I've worked in across several companies.

Cloudef 4y ago

https://toggl.com/blog/mars-software-development https://toggl.com/blog/mars-software-development Very much related

marcosdumay 4y ago

> After scrum You mean the daily standup? Scrum is a full process. There's no "after", no "before". It's a steady state. (Anyway, I need to decompress almost all meetings I have, of any kind.)

MisterBastahrd 4y ago
Yeah... I meant standup but by the time I realized what I wrote, I couldn't go back and edit it.

nonameiguess 4y ago

I tend to wake up really early and get straight to work, so by the time scrum comes around, I've already gotten 3-4 hours in, but haven't yet eaten or showered, so that's what I do next.

Unbeliever69 4y ago
Love the remote life! What would this look like if you were working in an office?

t43562 4y ago

We put our standup after lunch if that's what you mean, because some developers are in the US and it's morning for them. It lets most of us get a quite peaceful morning of work in - somehow it spawns less meetings. Afterwards there are usually meetings about issues raised in the standup or just others or just back to what we were doing. Standups shouldn't be stressful and if they are it's a bad sign of the way the team is working. We should be able to say what's going on without feeling we'll get jumped on for it.

JustSomePackets 4y ago

Working in a IT project/consulting company it varies a lot depending on team members and client. The agile manifesto is just about trying to add value through work, iterating on smaller chunks of work, iterating on your ways of working, semi-regularly spending some time with the team reviewing how things are working out, and adapt accordingly. Scrum on the other hand is a framework of meetings, roles, rule, and a common language that help heavily process oriented companies/people dip their toes in. A first step if you will, then you iterate to make it your own. Unfortunately, some people "swallow the manual" and take it far too inflexibly. Or deity forbid some business transformation consultancy sells your upper-management the Scaled Agile Framework and its time to polish off the old CV. So depending on where the particular project lies on a scale of understanding between those two: any and all of the above. Standup is not meant to be stressful, it's just meant to be a forum to raise issues, but some people insist on pulling teeth.

dogcomplex 4y ago

corpMaverick 4y ago

3.- I am most productive before the stand up. The stand up really burns my energy.