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>What's next: Dorsey's next move remains unclear. Do founders ever feel regret when they walk away from what they became known for? If you still have drive aft

by daenz 4y ago

>What's next: Dorsey's next move remains unclear. Do founders ever feel regret when they walk away from what they became known for? If you still have drive after you leave, I imagine there is a lot of pressure to reproduce your first success. EDIT>>Removing reference to Dorsey only having one major success.

radicaldreamer 4y ago
He also runs Square, which is arguably more successful
- daenz 4y ago
  You're right! Totally forgot about Square. Though I still maintain he is known for Twitter.
- simonlc 4y ago
  Clearly this person didn't want to do even a simple google search before commenting.
- rufusroflpunch 4y ago
  I don’t even think it is arguable. Square and CashApp are significantly more profitable than Twitter, I believe.
- Turing_Machine 4y ago
  He was on the original Blogger team, too. It was pretty successful until Google bought it and left it to die on the vine, as they usually do.
  - boeingUH60 4y ago
    I think it’s Evan Williams (the other Twitter co-founder) who was on the Blogger team, not Dorsey.
    - Turing_Machine 4y ago
      Williams was, for sure, but according to Wikipedia Dorsey was, in fact, a programmer for Pyra Labs (the creators of Blogger).
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - Syonyk 4y ago
    Hey, they recently redid the user interface for it! I mean, yeah, the new interface is unusable with anything under a Xeon workstation, and it's very mobile editing focused, for a blogging platform, and it drove me and a variety of other people off Blogger entirely, but... they've not just left it alone. That would have been an improvement over what they did to it. My extensive thoughts on their "improvements" here: https://www.sevarg.net/2020/10/10/end-of-blog-new-blogger-interface-is/ https://www.sevarg.net/2020/10/10/end-of-blog-new-blogger-in... Which is now a Jekyll based blog, hosted on my own hardware.
pbreit 4y ago
Jack's at least a 2-hit wonder. Maybe 3 if you count Block's new direction.
- Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
  Really? What do they do? And I mean practically speaking, not aspirationally I also don't care about the stock price What is the credit rating of Block, Twitter and Square? D- ? DD- ?
  - onethought 4y ago
    You don’t care about stock price. But credit ratings are the bastion of truth! Square changed the game on merchant accounts with Point of Sale systems.
    - Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
      > But credit ratings are the bastion of truth! It's the only market where you can make a direct comparison between company X or Y and the most solid entity in the world which is the US Federal Govt. for you cannot buy stocks in Uncle Sam, only bonds. > Square changed the game on merchant accounts with Point of Sale systems. Business isn't politics, you have to show profits or at least huge FCF to claim that you've made it. Xerox was the game changer with GUI , BlackBerry/PocketPC with smartphones, Myspace with social media etc...yet only historians of business remember such details. Changing the game isn't the name of the game. Signing off incredible amounts of quality of life for the American consumer, that's what it's all about.
      - onethought 4y ago
        GM has a higher credit rating than Tesla… despite being a company that went bankrupt and has declining sales across the board, has lower margins lower mar cap and a much shakier forward plan and heaps more debt. So what are you talking about?
        4y ago
eterevsky 4y ago
One example is Pavel Durov. He created VK, which became the most popular social network in Russia. It was taken over by government-aligned oligarchs. Pavel left Russia and started Telegram which became even more successful.
polote 4y ago
When you leave something you have put so much effort in, and the future doesn't look good then you feel regret. When the future looks good you are usually proud. But no, you don't feel pressure to build it again. Because first this is a lot of work and second it is not even likely that you will succeed again at it. Especially in b2c
bobsmooth 4y ago
Tom from Myspace seems to be doing well. I think he's an outlier though.

by daenz 4y ago

radicaldreamer 4y ago

He also runs Square, which is arguably more successful

daenz 4y ago
You're right! Totally forgot about Square. Though I still maintain he is known for Twitter.
simonlc 4y ago
Clearly this person didn't want to do even a simple google search before commenting.
rufusroflpunch 4y ago
I don’t even think it is arguable. Square and CashApp are significantly more profitable than Twitter, I believe.
Turing_Machine 4y ago
He was on the original Blogger team, too. It was pretty successful until Google bought it and left it to die on the vine, as they usually do.
- boeingUH60 4y ago
  I think it’s Evan Williams (the other Twitter co-founder) who was on the Blogger team, not Dorsey.
  - Turing_Machine 4y ago
    Williams was, for sure, but according to Wikipedia Dorsey was, in fact, a programmer for Pyra Labs (the creators of Blogger).
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- Syonyk 4y ago
  Hey, they recently redid the user interface for it! I mean, yeah, the new interface is unusable with anything under a Xeon workstation, and it's very mobile editing focused, for a blogging platform, and it drove me and a variety of other people off Blogger entirely, but... they've not just left it alone. That would have been an improvement over what they did to it. My extensive thoughts on their "improvements" here: https://www.sevarg.net/2020/10/10/end-of-blog-new-blogger-interface-is/ https://www.sevarg.net/2020/10/10/end-of-blog-new-blogger-in... Which is now a Jekyll based blog, hosted on my own hardware.

pbreit 4y ago

Jack's at least a 2-hit wonder. Maybe 3 if you count Block's new direction.

Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
Really? What do they do? And I mean practically speaking, not aspirationally I also don't care about the stock price What is the credit rating of Block, Twitter and Square? D- ? DD- ?
- onethought 4y ago
  You don’t care about stock price. But credit ratings are the bastion of truth! Square changed the game on merchant accounts with Point of Sale systems.
  - Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
    > But credit ratings are the bastion of truth! It's the only market where you can make a direct comparison between company X or Y and the most solid entity in the world which is the US Federal Govt. for you cannot buy stocks in Uncle Sam, only bonds. > Square changed the game on merchant accounts with Point of Sale systems. Business isn't politics, you have to show profits or at least huge FCF to claim that you've made it. Xerox was the game changer with GUI , BlackBerry/PocketPC with smartphones, Myspace with social media etc...yet only historians of business remember such details. Changing the game isn't the name of the game. Signing off incredible amounts of quality of life for the American consumer, that's what it's all about.
    - onethought 4y ago
      GM has a higher credit rating than Tesla… despite being a company that went bankrupt and has declining sales across the board, has lower margins lower mar cap and a much shakier forward plan and heaps more debt. So what are you talking about?
      - 4y ago

eterevsky 4y ago

One example is Pavel Durov. He created VK, which became the most popular social network in Russia. It was taken over by government-aligned oligarchs. Pavel left Russia and started Telegram which became even more successful.

polote 4y ago

When you leave something you have put so much effort in, and the future doesn't look good then you feel regret. When the future looks good you are usually proud. But no, you don't feel pressure to build it again. Because first this is a lot of work and second it is not even likely that you will succeed again at it. Especially in b2c

bobsmooth 4y ago

Tom from Myspace seems to be doing well. I think he's an outlier though.