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I like privacy. And I distrust Facebook and other big tech companies. I'm generally very happy that our democratically elected governments makes an effort to pr

by akie 4y ago

I like privacy. And I distrust Facebook and other big tech companies. I'm generally very happy that our democratically elected governments makes an effort to protect the citizens that elected it. I trust the government more than I trust the likes of Facebook, so I really don't see the issue here.

oceanplexian 4y ago
I don’t. Governments- even the best ones- have enslaved, killed, stolen from, lied to, and tortured millions of people. If you get on the wrong side of a government they’ll lock you in a metal cage for the rest of your life. Facebook, on the other hand, has sold some of my advertising data, and if I piss off Facebook I won’t be able to share memes on a website. There is hardly a comparison.
- deepsquirrelnet 4y ago
  There’s hardly a point to drawing lines between public and private in corporate state capitalism. The boundaries are becoming less important every day. It’s not like we’ve been at war because citizens were demanding it.
- daniel-cussen 4y ago
  No, just to stop you right there. Allende's government, 1970-1976 (interrupted in 1973, but according to La República de Chile, a country which stopped existing having been effectively invaded, he was meant to continue in office until 1976) didn't meaningfully enslave, kill, or torture anybody. The argument that it stole and lied to people can in fact be constructed, but at that point they have to fight Henry Kissinger's monstruous and cowardly realpolitik with some realpolitik of their own. You can't just say that, you can't just talk shit about every single government that ever existed, like there was no differences between them. That there was no difference in intent. Like if you were on a desert island with nine other people, would you say that about the organization among the ten of you? Further, I honestly prefer the contracts the governments of the countries in which I am a citizen to the contracts of practically or literally all businesses and institutions I've encountered.

by akie 4y ago

oceanplexian 4y ago

I don’t. Governments- even the best ones- have enslaved, killed, stolen from, lied to, and tortured millions of people. If you get on the wrong side of a government they’ll lock you in a metal cage for the rest of your life. Facebook, on the other hand, has sold some of my advertising data, and if I piss off Facebook I won’t be able to share memes on a website. There is hardly a comparison.

deepsquirrelnet 4y ago
There’s hardly a point to drawing lines between public and private in corporate state capitalism. The boundaries are becoming less important every day. It’s not like we’ve been at war because citizens were demanding it.
daniel-cussen 4y ago
No, just to stop you right there. Allende's government, 1970-1976 (interrupted in 1973, but according to La República de Chile, a country which stopped existing having been effectively invaded, he was meant to continue in office until 1976) didn't meaningfully enslave, kill, or torture anybody. The argument that it stole and lied to people can in fact be constructed, but at that point they have to fight Henry Kissinger's monstruous and cowardly realpolitik with some realpolitik of their own. You can't just say that, you can't just talk shit about every single government that ever existed, like there was no differences between them. That there was no difference in intent. Like if you were on a desert island with nine other people, would you say that about the organization among the ten of you? Further, I honestly prefer the contracts the governments of the countries in which I am a citizen to the contracts of practically or literally all businesses and institutions I've encountered.