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Just want to point out that this not an issue only between European countries but also a problem e.g. inside Germany. [1]: a major information breach at a car r

by riedel 4y ago

Just want to point out that this not an issue only between European countries but also a problem e.g. inside Germany. [1]: a major information breach at a car rental company went with literary no consequences, while other cases get fined so high that they can easily fight decisions in court. I understand people if they complain about GDPR because it produces paperwork but in the end nobody cares about it. A central European regulation might sound nice at first, but if you even can receive not even a symbolic fine for a clear breach because a DPA has pitty with you something is fishy... [1] https://www.heise.de/news/Kein-Bussgeld-fuer-die-Datenpanne-bei-Buchbinder-7072949.html https://www.heise.de/news/Kein-Bussgeld-fuer-die-Datenpanne-...

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> also a problem e.g. inside Germany. [1]: a major information breach at a car rental company went with literary no consequences, while other cases get fined so high that they can easily fight decisions in court This is the problem of German regulators being too cozy with incumbents. (Also see: Wirecard.) It's related, in that if you're one of the incumbents a regulator is cozy with, you're going to fight to switch forum to Germany. But it's a different problem with different solutions.
- Radim 4y ago
  Indeed. NOYB's fight with the Irish Data Protection Commission is already legendary: https://techcrunch.com/2021/12/20/facebook-transfers-impact-assessment-noyb/ https://techcrunch.com/2021/12/20/facebook-transfers-impact-... https://noyb.eu/en/irish-dpc-burns-taxpayer-money-over-delay-cases https://noyb.eu/en/irish-dpc-burns-taxpayer-money-over-delay... (DPC = the official Irish body who should be responsible for enforcing GDPR… in bed with Facebook instead. Somewhere between shameful and criminal.)
  - disgruntledphd2 4y ago
    > DPC = the official Irish body who should be responsible for enforcing GDPR… in bed with Facebook instead Speaking as an Irish person, it's probably more accurate to say that the DPC is woefully under-resourced, and FB are super litigious so its more the government haven't given the DPC enough resources to do their job.

by riedel 4y ago

JumpCrisscross 4y ago

> also a problem e.g. inside Germany. [1]: a major information breach at a car rental company went with literary no consequences, while other cases get fined so high that they can easily fight decisions in court This is the problem of German regulators being too cozy with incumbents. (Also see: Wirecard.) It's related, in that if you're one of the incumbents a regulator is cozy with, you're going to fight to switch forum to Germany. But it's a different problem with different solutions.

Radim 4y ago
Indeed. NOYB's fight with the Irish Data Protection Commission is already legendary: https://techcrunch.com/2021/12/20/facebook-transfers-impact-assessment-noyb/ https://techcrunch.com/2021/12/20/facebook-transfers-impact-... https://noyb.eu/en/irish-dpc-burns-taxpayer-money-over-delay-cases https://noyb.eu/en/irish-dpc-burns-taxpayer-money-over-delay... (DPC = the official Irish body who should be responsible for enforcing GDPR… in bed with Facebook instead. Somewhere between shameful and criminal.)
- disgruntledphd2 4y ago
  > DPC = the official Irish body who should be responsible for enforcing GDPR… in bed with Facebook instead Speaking as an Irish person, it's probably more accurate to say that the DPC is woefully under-resourced, and FB are super litigious so its more the government haven't given the DPC enough resources to do their job.