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Linode Managed Databases

134 points by vincent_s 4y ago

vincent_s 4y ago
Pricing: https://www.linode.com/pricing/#databases https://www.linode.com/pricing/#databases
- metadat 4y ago
  Seems a little pricey.. are they competing with AWS Managed Postgres?
  - api 4y ago
    Everybody charges a log for managed DB. The arcane nature of Postgres is a great cash bonanza for cloud providers.
    - latchkey 4y ago
      Weird how this is your impression. Maybe people tend to over allocate their instances? I've been super careful to choose exactly what I need for my application. My GCP Cloud Postgres instance is the second smallest (1 vcpu, 1.7gb, 15gb). I'm 24/7 doing 300 tran/s with ~20% cpu utilization and it only costs $27.34 a month. I just upgraded to Postgres 14 (from 13) with a click of a button and a few seconds of switchover downtime. Seems more than worth the price.
      - akrymski 4y ago
        Paying $300 per year for something that a raspberry pi + sqlite could handle is still very expensive imo.
        latchkey 4y ago
        Not sure if that is a troll response, but that is very much of an apple/orange comparison. 1. My application needs postgres as it uses a few specific queries that sqlite does not support the same way. Hello `interval`. 2. Backups are automatic and transparent. 3. Upgrades, instance sizing and disk expansion are just a few clicks away. 4. I don't have to deal with hosting, power, internet, security. 5. Charts, logs, metrics all built in. 6. On the same network as the rest of the frontend... gcp functions. Just one of those alone is worth the $300/yr imho.
        akrymski 4y ago
        Not trolling, I genuinely think it's a lot of money for a simple database though. Maybe yours isn't, but I don't know any provider that charges less than 300 for a hosted db. Btw Sqlite can go a long way: https://fly.io/blog/all-in-on-sqlite-litestream/ https://fly.io/blog/all-in-on-sqlite-litestream/ https://blog.expensify.com/2018/01/08/scaling-sqlite-to-4m-qps-on-a-single-server/ https://blog.expensify.com/2018/01/08/scaling-sqlite-to-4m-q...
        latchkey 4y ago
        no database is 'simple'. it really depends on the use case, doesn't it? "going a long way" on sqlite would have really end up biting me in the ass as soon as my app needed to scale beyond it. now i've written a bunch of sqlite specific queries (ex: show me all the rows that were modified over 10 minutes ago) that i'd need to spend time migrating and testing on another database. in my case, i had no idea what the actual load on my database was going to be. i knew i'd be sending it a constant stream of traffic and the traffic would grow over time, but until i did that, there was no (easy) way to load test it. i started with the $7/mo option and when i grew out of that, a couple clicks later i was onto the $13/mo option. unloading the points i outlined above from my concerns allowed me to focus on building features instead of infrastructure. it is all about perspective and approaching things in a way that is logical, not thinking in terms of the latest HN headlines. this app is the backend for something generating many millions of dollars a year in revenue. $300/mo is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
        akrymski 4y ago
        Let's say you have a hobby or open source website that requires a database backend and isn't making money. $300 / year is quite expensive all of a sudden.
        latchkey 4y ago
        Indeed and that is why there are plenty of options for free tiers. I even started off with the $84/yr option, which isn't too bad. I've lost the point of your message though. Your original response suggested a RPI... which is about $35 just for the base hardware and it doesn't do nearly what I outlined above.
      - sonthonax 4y ago
        Getting 20% CPU utilization on 300 tran/s is crazy.
        latchkey 4y ago
        I can't tell if this is good or bad. =) Most of my queries are super simple and most of the load is an update statement on a primary key column.
        duskwuff 4y ago
        To be more explicit: 20% CPU utilization for that workload is shockingly high.
        latchkey 4y ago
        Interesting, doesn't seem high to me given that this is the backend to GCP functions which are a sustained ~25 rps, but maybe I'm missing an index or something. It is mostly update writes though, so maybe that is part of it. #1 query is: `insert into on conflict do update` (based on id column). 57 writes/s 281 trans/s ~12-15 connections 547 megs used
  - showerst 4y ago
    Yeah, it seems weird that they're a lot more than digitalocean.
  - freedomben 4y ago
    Were you looking at dedicated CPU or shared CPU? I made that mistake when i first looked and was shocked at how much more it was than DO, but after noticing that it seems like the same price.
- jf93ap29sh 4y ago
  Anyone knows how much storage each DB plan comes with? e.g. "Linode 2GB" - I assume that means it has 2 GB of RAM, but how much storage does that entail Can't find it on their page
  - ok_dad 4y ago
    I think they’re just using their standard nodes running a managed db on there, so look at their prices and specs for the standard linodes and you’ll get close. That is how they do k8s cluster pricing, they just add the nodes up cost wise then add a premium for the managed service.
WalterGR 4y ago
Linode doesn't seem to come up much. The only submission in the past year that's gotten more than a couple comments is: Akamai to Acquire Linode (https://www.akamai.com/newsroom/press-release/akamai-to-acquire-linode https://www.akamai.com/newsroom/press-release/akamai-to-acqu...) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30352772 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30352772 986 points | nycdatasci | 3 months ago | 326 comments
- mattbillenstein 4y ago
  I like them, they're my solidly "other cloud" option - running my personal VPS's, dev workloads at some companies, prod at others, etc.
  - apocalyptic0n3 4y ago
    Their support has always been best in class. Extremely responsive and always helpful. It's one of the reasons we decided to stick with them after the security incidents. The support was good enough to outweigh those concerns.
    - mattbillenstein 4y ago
      Agreed, I've had issues with Digital Ocean...
- mekster 4y ago
  Used Linode for years on several instances without a problem, very good support and reliable but trying to move out for a very small problem that their server backups can't handle any non default filesystems, as in, if I use zfs, their instance backup won't take backup of those because they do backup on a filesystem level and not on block device level and a fact that Vultr supports HDD block storage which seems to be a unique option among others to lower the cost of local disk access significantly.
mikece 4y ago
Seems that Digital Ocean comes up quite a bit on HN; Linode does from time to time... who else is in this market segment?
- pbowyer 4y ago
  UpCloud (more expensive, were v fast IO when I started using them, not benchmarked for a couple of years) Vultr (have had reliability issues; again no recent data)
  - menacingly 4y ago
    anecdotally of course, I’ve really enjoyed working with vultr the last few years. Great performance, and their services are simple and well thought through. It’s perhaps a little too easy to bump into their initial account spending limits, but that’s about the only nit I can pick. It’s probably pretty tiresome fighting fraud on a VPS platform.
  - bryans 4y ago
    I wanted to like Vultr, but had reliability issues from day one, even while running nothing but a basic Nginx instance. And instead of the support staff acknowledging the issues or offering any solutions (or even reading my emails, frankly), they rather aggressively told me they don't see an issue, and even if there is an issue that I would need to fix it myself -- completely disregarding the visible evidence that it was at the networking layer. It was one of the most infuriating exchanges I've had with support staff from any company. If there was any redeeming factor, it's that the COO sent a long email apologizing for the CSR's behavior. But when all was said and done, the VPS was still inaccessible a dozen or more times per day, and an apology from an executive doesn't change that.
    - mekster 4y ago
      To me Vultr had a network problem in a specific region (Silicon Valley) in the past intermittently but not recently. I never had any problems in Tokyo region. One unique thing about Vultr is that they provide HDD block storage which is way cheaper than SSD one which seems to be the only option for any other clouds. If you need a large disk like for backups, Vultr is pretty attractive.
chasd00 4y ago
i've used linode on various projects for a while (my first invoice was in 2013). no complaints.
- my69thaccount 4y ago
  Not even about the numerous security incidents?
  - chasd00 4y ago
    well i went back and skimmed their incidents. I mean, yeah those incidents suck, there's really no way around it. My day job has changed a lot since 2013. Could I, in clear conscious, recommend Linode to a client today? I would need to know each incident in detail and how they've changed and be convinced the past is staying in the past. My setup has always been there when i needed it and support has always been responsive and that goes a long ways. However, we all know a secure environment is at the top of the list.
- sph 4y ago
  I was a fan of Digital Ocean when it first appeared, then it turned into a VC company trying to recreate half of AWS badly, and I slowly warmed up to Linode. I've used both professionally, and I still think while Linode has fewer fancy features you know you're dealing with a company of engineers, a sentiment I really can't feel anymore when I log on my DO dashboard. To be fair, I'm evaluating Hetzner now, because I just want affordable and performant virtual machines, while Linode are moving their focus to managed services because they're more profitable and are a great way to lock in their customers. Linode is no longer competitive if you just need to rent VPSes.
ivyirwin 4y ago
Excited to check this out. I'm a long time Linode user and recently came across some projects that could leverage a managed DB. As always, I find the prices competitive – especially compared to AWS which I was starting to look at again for this component, but now I can try it out here instead.
tiffanyh 4y ago
Has anyone tried Linode Bare Metal? It's been in Beta for literally years now. https://www.linode.com/products/bare-metal/ https://www.linode.com/products/bare-metal/
- bryans 4y ago
  > It's been in Beta for literally years now. "Years" is quite a stretch. On December 30, 2019, they announced[1] bare metal servers as being part of their roadmap for 2020, and then on June 16, 2021 they announced the beta was "upcoming." Given the necessity of on-site labor to launch a bare metal service, I think it's perfectly reasonable for it take more than a year in the midst of a pandemic. [1] https://www.linode.com/blog/linode/2019-a-year-in-review/ https://www.linode.com/blog/linode/2019-a-year-in-review/ [2] https://www.linode.com/blog/linode/celebrating-18-years/ https://www.linode.com/blog/linode/celebrating-18-years/
  - tiffanyh 4y ago
    Wayback Machine shows the beta was available as early as Oct 26, 2020. https://web.archive.org/web/20201026191156/https://www.linode.com/products/bare-metal/ https://web.archive.org/web/20201026191156/https://www.linod... That’s 1.6 years ago.
    - bryans 4y ago
      That isn't helping your exaggerated claim. 1.6 is not a multiple of one, making it quite literally not multiple years. You have two apples. You cut one and give half away. How many do you have? One apple, and one half of an apple. You no longer have multiple apples. Also, the page you're linking to has a gigantic "coming soon" banner at the top, which would indicate it's not actually available. Its call to action is not to purchase a bare metal server, but instead a link to register for their Green Light program, which lists the bare metal beta as "upcoming." So, no, the beta hasn't been available for years, you're still ignoring that whole "on-site labor in the middle of a pandemic" thing, and I can't imagine why you felt like an attempt at publicly shaming them twice was necessary.
l5870uoo9y 4y ago
Been wondering how much uptime you get with "these" managed databases? Currently running similar service on Digital Ocean and unsure if extra database nodes are necessary (2 failover nodes increases cost significantly).
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groggo 4y ago
I'd really like access to a tiny, almost free, sql database for personal projects. The cheapest option here is $15 a month, and similar prices for other cloud managed dbs. Heroku was nice and I guess is still a good option, but hard to make a usable site on their free tier because of start up time. Then there's the interesting new option from Cloudflare, D1. Currently I just run my personal project on AWS lambda + dynamodb. It's free, but using dynamodb for relational data is a little awkward.
- ajbourg 4y ago
  I have a similar desire, I'm considering trying out AWS' RDS Aurora Serverless v2. (ugh, that's a mouthful) Full Postgres/MySQL but extremely quick scale up and down so as long as you have small use, it shouldn't cost a ton. I'm also super interested in Cloudflare D1, looking to get my hands on it and try it out.
  - kam 4y ago
    Aurora Serverless v2 doesn't scale to zero, though. Minimum capacity costs $43/month.
    - joshstrange 4y ago
      V2 is a garbage fire and that was before I knew it didn't scale to zero. It doubles the cost of V1 and they have the gall to say: > most Aurora Serverless customers can lower costs by moving to v2 due to a lower starting capacity of 0.5 ACU (vs. 1 ACU in v1) Oh, why thank you AWS, how kind of you. I can go to 0.5? That doesn't matter at all, the price is the save as 1 ACU on V1. D1 is interesting but if you want Serverless MySQL then check out PlanetScale [0]. It's free for hobby projects (it will turn off if you go 1 week with no activity) and then it's a flat $30/mo and you can have 2 production branches and 5 development branches. I've been very happy with them so far. The usage-based pricing is a little scary (I know I don't think in rows read/written) but the limits are super high and so far my usage has been barely a blip. [0] https://planetscale.com/ https://planetscale.com/
dominicl 4y ago
Anyone having experience with contabo.com? I've got a couple of VPS there and so far pretty happy but didn't yet have any more involved interaction with the team or support to fully judge. No managed DBs but object storage as well.
- sparrish 4y ago
  Our experience was nothing but bad with Contabo VPS. Poor uptime and support.
- pyprism 4y ago
  I am using Contabo for the last 8 months. So far I didn't find any issues.
0des 4y ago
Is there a company out there that just does managed databases? Specifically postgres?
- gbrayut 4y ago
  https://aiven.io/postgresql https://aiven.io/postgresql
- SnowHill9902 4y ago
  Elephant
- lukew3 4y ago
  MongoDB Atlas?
  - 0des 4y ago
    Postgres
- rubiquity 4y ago
  Crunchy Data is all things Postgres. The managed service is called Crunchy Bridge and is built by former Heroku and Citus folks. Runs on AWS, GCP, and Azure: https://www.crunchydata.com/products/crunchy-bridge https://www.crunchydata.com/products/crunchy-bridge Disclaimer: I work there.
  - 0des 4y ago
    All of the links and suggestions I got were basically "we run postgres for you on any platform you choose", which is essentially just reselling these platforms that I already have managed postgres on. Perhaps these businesses arent for me, or maybe im the wrong market segment, but I cant understand what value is delivered by adding more stuff between me and the thing I already have, when my gripe is the platform managing that thing to begin with. I want to get away from digitalocean because theyre trying to do too much in too many disparate spaces, which is a feeling I hold the same for -all- of the other platforms, GCP, AWS, etc. What I guess I was assuming would exist would be a service with their own concerns, their own staff, end to end hosting some managed clusters on their own hardware. When something breaks, I dont ever want to hear about an upstream provider unless it is an ISP or Colo, and nor should I. I want the world of service providers to take ownership of their entire stack, possibly that is not realistic in 2022. As Im typing this, Im realizing, I need to just get my own colo cage and rack up my own hardware. Its frustrating as ever to come to this realization. I essentially want a patch monkey with a penchant for backups and resource monitoring. I dont care about elastic someshits, I dont care about cute terms for pricing units like dynos, I absolutely dont want to call for pricing (scylla, this is on you). Its hard not to think im just completely wrong when the way i think things should be is the complete opposite of the way things are. This comment has been both cathartic and revealing.
throwaway3221 4y ago
i love linode and i am going to switch to linode ASAP.
bizzleDawg 4y ago
Sad not to see point-in-time-restore for postgres yet, but hopefully it gets added soon.

134 points by vincent_s 4y ago

vincent_s 4y ago

Pricing: https://www.linode.com/pricing/#databases https://www.linode.com/pricing/#databases

metadat 4y ago
Seems a little pricey.. are they competing with AWS Managed Postgres?
- api 4y ago
  Everybody charges a log for managed DB. The arcane nature of Postgres is a great cash bonanza for cloud providers.
  - latchkey 4y ago
    Weird how this is your impression. Maybe people tend to over allocate their instances? I've been super careful to choose exactly what I need for my application. My GCP Cloud Postgres instance is the second smallest (1 vcpu, 1.7gb, 15gb). I'm 24/7 doing 300 tran/s with ~20% cpu utilization and it only costs $27.34 a month. I just upgraded to Postgres 14 (from 13) with a click of a button and a few seconds of switchover downtime. Seems more than worth the price.
    - akrymski 4y ago
      Paying $300 per year for something that a raspberry pi + sqlite could handle is still very expensive imo.
      - latchkey 4y ago
        Not sure if that is a troll response, but that is very much of an apple/orange comparison. 1. My application needs postgres as it uses a few specific queries that sqlite does not support the same way. Hello `interval`. 2. Backups are automatic and transparent. 3. Upgrades, instance sizing and disk expansion are just a few clicks away. 4. I don't have to deal with hosting, power, internet, security. 5. Charts, logs, metrics all built in. 6. On the same network as the rest of the frontend... gcp functions. Just one of those alone is worth the $300/yr imho.
        akrymski 4y ago
        Not trolling, I genuinely think it's a lot of money for a simple database though. Maybe yours isn't, but I don't know any provider that charges less than 300 for a hosted db. Btw Sqlite can go a long way: https://fly.io/blog/all-in-on-sqlite-litestream/ https://fly.io/blog/all-in-on-sqlite-litestream/ https://blog.expensify.com/2018/01/08/scaling-sqlite-to-4m-qps-on-a-single-server/ https://blog.expensify.com/2018/01/08/scaling-sqlite-to-4m-q...
        latchkey 4y ago
        no database is 'simple'. it really depends on the use case, doesn't it? "going a long way" on sqlite would have really end up biting me in the ass as soon as my app needed to scale beyond it. now i've written a bunch of sqlite specific queries (ex: show me all the rows that were modified over 10 minutes ago) that i'd need to spend time migrating and testing on another database. in my case, i had no idea what the actual load on my database was going to be. i knew i'd be sending it a constant stream of traffic and the traffic would grow over time, but until i did that, there was no (easy) way to load test it. i started with the $7/mo option and when i grew out of that, a couple clicks later i was onto the $13/mo option. unloading the points i outlined above from my concerns allowed me to focus on building features instead of infrastructure. it is all about perspective and approaching things in a way that is logical, not thinking in terms of the latest HN headlines. this app is the backend for something generating many millions of dollars a year in revenue. $300/mo is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
        akrymski 4y ago
        Let's say you have a hobby or open source website that requires a database backend and isn't making money. $300 / year is quite expensive all of a sudden.
        latchkey 4y ago
        Indeed and that is why there are plenty of options for free tiers. I even started off with the $84/yr option, which isn't too bad. I've lost the point of your message though. Your original response suggested a RPI... which is about $35 just for the base hardware and it doesn't do nearly what I outlined above.
    - sonthonax 4y ago
      Getting 20% CPU utilization on 300 tran/s is crazy.
      - latchkey 4y ago
        I can't tell if this is good or bad. =) Most of my queries are super simple and most of the load is an update statement on a primary key column.
        duskwuff 4y ago
        To be more explicit: 20% CPU utilization for that workload is shockingly high.
        latchkey 4y ago
        Interesting, doesn't seem high to me given that this is the backend to GCP functions which are a sustained ~25 rps, but maybe I'm missing an index or something. It is mostly update writes though, so maybe that is part of it. #1 query is: `insert into on conflict do update` (based on id column). 57 writes/s 281 trans/s ~12-15 connections 547 megs used
- showerst 4y ago
  Yeah, it seems weird that they're a lot more than digitalocean.
- freedomben 4y ago
  Were you looking at dedicated CPU or shared CPU? I made that mistake when i first looked and was shocked at how much more it was than DO, but after noticing that it seems like the same price.
jf93ap29sh 4y ago
Anyone knows how much storage each DB plan comes with? e.g. "Linode 2GB" - I assume that means it has 2 GB of RAM, but how much storage does that entail Can't find it on their page
- ok_dad 4y ago
  I think they’re just using their standard nodes running a managed db on there, so look at their prices and specs for the standard linodes and you’ll get close. That is how they do k8s cluster pricing, they just add the nodes up cost wise then add a premium for the managed service.

WalterGR 4y ago

Linode doesn't seem to come up much. The only submission in the past year that's gotten more than a couple comments is: Akamai to Acquire Linode (https://www.akamai.com/newsroom/press-release/akamai-to-acquire-linode https://www.akamai.com/newsroom/press-release/akamai-to-acqu...) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30352772 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30352772 986 points | nycdatasci | 3 months ago | 326 comments

mattbillenstein 4y ago
I like them, they're my solidly "other cloud" option - running my personal VPS's, dev workloads at some companies, prod at others, etc.
- apocalyptic0n3 4y ago
  Their support has always been best in class. Extremely responsive and always helpful. It's one of the reasons we decided to stick with them after the security incidents. The support was good enough to outweigh those concerns.
  - mattbillenstein 4y ago
    Agreed, I've had issues with Digital Ocean...
mekster 4y ago
Used Linode for years on several instances without a problem, very good support and reliable but trying to move out for a very small problem that their server backups can't handle any non default filesystems, as in, if I use zfs, their instance backup won't take backup of those because they do backup on a filesystem level and not on block device level and a fact that Vultr supports HDD block storage which seems to be a unique option among others to lower the cost of local disk access significantly.

mikece 4y ago

Seems that Digital Ocean comes up quite a bit on HN; Linode does from time to time... who else is in this market segment?

pbowyer 4y ago
UpCloud (more expensive, were v fast IO when I started using them, not benchmarked for a couple of years) Vultr (have had reliability issues; again no recent data)
- menacingly 4y ago
  anecdotally of course, I’ve really enjoyed working with vultr the last few years. Great performance, and their services are simple and well thought through. It’s perhaps a little too easy to bump into their initial account spending limits, but that’s about the only nit I can pick. It’s probably pretty tiresome fighting fraud on a VPS platform.
- bryans 4y ago
  I wanted to like Vultr, but had reliability issues from day one, even while running nothing but a basic Nginx instance. And instead of the support staff acknowledging the issues or offering any solutions (or even reading my emails, frankly), they rather aggressively told me they don't see an issue, and even if there is an issue that I would need to fix it myself -- completely disregarding the visible evidence that it was at the networking layer. It was one of the most infuriating exchanges I've had with support staff from any company. If there was any redeeming factor, it's that the COO sent a long email apologizing for the CSR's behavior. But when all was said and done, the VPS was still inaccessible a dozen or more times per day, and an apology from an executive doesn't change that.
  - mekster 4y ago
    To me Vultr had a network problem in a specific region (Silicon Valley) in the past intermittently but not recently. I never had any problems in Tokyo region. One unique thing about Vultr is that they provide HDD block storage which is way cheaper than SSD one which seems to be the only option for any other clouds. If you need a large disk like for backups, Vultr is pretty attractive.

chasd00 4y ago

i've used linode on various projects for a while (my first invoice was in 2013). no complaints.

my69thaccount 4y ago
Not even about the numerous security incidents?
- chasd00 4y ago
  well i went back and skimmed their incidents. I mean, yeah those incidents suck, there's really no way around it. My day job has changed a lot since 2013. Could I, in clear conscious, recommend Linode to a client today? I would need to know each incident in detail and how they've changed and be convinced the past is staying in the past. My setup has always been there when i needed it and support has always been responsive and that goes a long ways. However, we all know a secure environment is at the top of the list.
sph 4y ago
I was a fan of Digital Ocean when it first appeared, then it turned into a VC company trying to recreate half of AWS badly, and I slowly warmed up to Linode. I've used both professionally, and I still think while Linode has fewer fancy features you know you're dealing with a company of engineers, a sentiment I really can't feel anymore when I log on my DO dashboard. To be fair, I'm evaluating Hetzner now, because I just want affordable and performant virtual machines, while Linode are moving their focus to managed services because they're more profitable and are a great way to lock in their customers. Linode is no longer competitive if you just need to rent VPSes.

ivyirwin 4y ago

Excited to check this out. I'm a long time Linode user and recently came across some projects that could leverage a managed DB. As always, I find the prices competitive – especially compared to AWS which I was starting to look at again for this component, but now I can try it out here instead.

tiffanyh 4y ago

Has anyone tried Linode Bare Metal? It's been in Beta for literally years now. https://www.linode.com/products/bare-metal/ https://www.linode.com/products/bare-metal/

bryans 4y ago
> It's been in Beta for literally years now. "Years" is quite a stretch. On December 30, 2019, they announced[1] bare metal servers as being part of their roadmap for 2020, and then on June 16, 2021 they announced the beta was "upcoming." Given the necessity of on-site labor to launch a bare metal service, I think it's perfectly reasonable for it take more than a year in the midst of a pandemic. [1] https://www.linode.com/blog/linode/2019-a-year-in-review/ https://www.linode.com/blog/linode/2019-a-year-in-review/ [2] https://www.linode.com/blog/linode/celebrating-18-years/ https://www.linode.com/blog/linode/celebrating-18-years/
- tiffanyh 4y ago
  Wayback Machine shows the beta was available as early as Oct 26, 2020. https://web.archive.org/web/20201026191156/https://www.linode.com/products/bare-metal/ https://web.archive.org/web/20201026191156/https://www.linod... That’s 1.6 years ago.
  - bryans 4y ago
    That isn't helping your exaggerated claim. 1.6 is not a multiple of one, making it quite literally not multiple years. You have two apples. You cut one and give half away. How many do you have? One apple, and one half of an apple. You no longer have multiple apples. Also, the page you're linking to has a gigantic "coming soon" banner at the top, which would indicate it's not actually available. Its call to action is not to purchase a bare metal server, but instead a link to register for their Green Light program, which lists the bare metal beta as "upcoming." So, no, the beta hasn't been available for years, you're still ignoring that whole "on-site labor in the middle of a pandemic" thing, and I can't imagine why you felt like an attempt at publicly shaming them twice was necessary.

l5870uoo9y 4y ago

Been wondering how much uptime you get with "these" managed databases? Currently running similar service on Digital Ocean and unsure if extra database nodes are necessary (2 failover nodes increases cost significantly).

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groggo 4y ago

I'd really like access to a tiny, almost free, sql database for personal projects. The cheapest option here is $15 a month, and similar prices for other cloud managed dbs. Heroku was nice and I guess is still a good option, but hard to make a usable site on their free tier because of start up time. Then there's the interesting new option from Cloudflare, D1. Currently I just run my personal project on AWS lambda + dynamodb. It's free, but using dynamodb for relational data is a little awkward.

ajbourg 4y ago
I have a similar desire, I'm considering trying out AWS' RDS Aurora Serverless v2. (ugh, that's a mouthful) Full Postgres/MySQL but extremely quick scale up and down so as long as you have small use, it shouldn't cost a ton. I'm also super interested in Cloudflare D1, looking to get my hands on it and try it out.
- kam 4y ago
  Aurora Serverless v2 doesn't scale to zero, though. Minimum capacity costs $43/month.
  - joshstrange 4y ago
    V2 is a garbage fire and that was before I knew it didn't scale to zero. It doubles the cost of V1 and they have the gall to say: > most Aurora Serverless customers can lower costs by moving to v2 due to a lower starting capacity of 0.5 ACU (vs. 1 ACU in v1) Oh, why thank you AWS, how kind of you. I can go to 0.5? That doesn't matter at all, the price is the save as 1 ACU on V1. D1 is interesting but if you want Serverless MySQL then check out PlanetScale [0]. It's free for hobby projects (it will turn off if you go 1 week with no activity) and then it's a flat $30/mo and you can have 2 production branches and 5 development branches. I've been very happy with them so far. The usage-based pricing is a little scary (I know I don't think in rows read/written) but the limits are super high and so far my usage has been barely a blip. [0] https://planetscale.com/ https://planetscale.com/

dominicl 4y ago

Anyone having experience with contabo.com? I've got a couple of VPS there and so far pretty happy but didn't yet have any more involved interaction with the team or support to fully judge. No managed DBs but object storage as well.

sparrish 4y ago
Our experience was nothing but bad with Contabo VPS. Poor uptime and support.
pyprism 4y ago
I am using Contabo for the last 8 months. So far I didn't find any issues.

0des 4y ago

Is there a company out there that just does managed databases? Specifically postgres?

gbrayut 4y ago
https://aiven.io/postgresql https://aiven.io/postgresql
SnowHill9902 4y ago
Elephant
lukew3 4y ago
MongoDB Atlas?
- 0des 4y ago
  Postgres
rubiquity 4y ago
Crunchy Data is all things Postgres. The managed service is called Crunchy Bridge and is built by former Heroku and Citus folks. Runs on AWS, GCP, and Azure: https://www.crunchydata.com/products/crunchy-bridge https://www.crunchydata.com/products/crunchy-bridge Disclaimer: I work there.
- 0des 4y ago
  All of the links and suggestions I got were basically "we run postgres for you on any platform you choose", which is essentially just reselling these platforms that I already have managed postgres on. Perhaps these businesses arent for me, or maybe im the wrong market segment, but I cant understand what value is delivered by adding more stuff between me and the thing I already have, when my gripe is the platform managing that thing to begin with. I want to get away from digitalocean because theyre trying to do too much in too many disparate spaces, which is a feeling I hold the same for -all- of the other platforms, GCP, AWS, etc. What I guess I was assuming would exist would be a service with their own concerns, their own staff, end to end hosting some managed clusters on their own hardware. When something breaks, I dont ever want to hear about an upstream provider unless it is an ISP or Colo, and nor should I. I want the world of service providers to take ownership of their entire stack, possibly that is not realistic in 2022. As Im typing this, Im realizing, I need to just get my own colo cage and rack up my own hardware. Its frustrating as ever to come to this realization. I essentially want a patch monkey with a penchant for backups and resource monitoring. I dont care about elastic someshits, I dont care about cute terms for pricing units like dynos, I absolutely dont want to call for pricing (scylla, this is on you). Its hard not to think im just completely wrong when the way i think things should be is the complete opposite of the way things are. This comment has been both cathartic and revealing.

throwaway3221 4y ago

i love linode and i am going to switch to linode ASAP.

bizzleDawg 4y ago

Sad not to see point-in-time-restore for postgres yet, but hopefully it gets added soon.