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Show HN: Muse 2.0 with local-first sync
Hey HN, I want to share with you something I and my four colleagues have been working on for the last several years. It’s a whiteboarding and notes tool called Muse[1]. We just released a 2.0 version which includes local-first sync.
A little backstory: I’m one of the authors of the 2019 essay Local-first software[2]. (Past HN discussions[3][4].) The thesis is to reclaim some of the ownership over our data that we’ve lost in the transition from filesystems to cloud/SaaS. So I’m excited to bring CRDT technology “out of the lab” and into a commercial product as a chance to prove the value of local-first in real-world usage.
As a developer and computing enthusiast, I care about abstract ideas like data ownership. But for most users I think the benefits of local-first will surface in how it feels to use the software day-to-day. One example is ability to work offline or in unstable network conditions: any changes between devices will be automatically merged when you reconnect to the network, no matter how long you’ve been disconnected.
Another area is performance. The sync backend was written by my colleague Mark McGranaghan who has written extensively about software performance[5][6] and why we think the cloud will never be fast enough to make truly responsive software.
A few technical details:
– Client-side CRDT written in Swift, streaming sync server written in Go
– Sync server is generic, doesn’t have any knowledge of the Muse app domain (cards, boards, ink, etc). Just shuffles data between devices
– Transactional, blob, and ephemeral data are all managed by this one single state system. For example ephemeral data (someone wiggling a card around) for example, isn’t even transmitted if there are no other clients listening in realtime.
More in this Metamuse podcast episode.[7]
We draw heavily on research from people like Martin Kleppmann, Peter van Hardenberg[8], and many others. A huge thank you to this wonderful research community.
Even if you have no interest in the Muse concept of a digital thinking workspace, I’d encourage you to try the free version just to see how local-first sync feels in practice. My opinion is that is fundamentally different from web/cloud software is well as from classic file-based software—and an improvement on both. Would love to hear what you think.
[1]: https://museapp.com/ https://museapp.com/
[2]: https://www.inkandswitch.com/local-first/ https://www.inkandswitch.com/local-first/
[3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19804478 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19804478
[4]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21581444 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21581444
[5]: https://www.inkandswitch.com/slow-software/ https://www.inkandswitch.com/slow-software/
[6]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18506170 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18506170
[7]: https://museapp.com/podcast/56-sync/ https://museapp.com/podcast/56-sync/
[8]: https://www.inkandswitch.com/pushpin/ https://www.inkandswitch.com/pushpin/
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- olivertaylor 4y agoI love Muse so much. It’s a very different way of organizing your thinking. I use it for everything. My todo list, my research, reading papers and PDFs, outlining bits of writing, shopping lists, presentations, trip planning, marking-up images/notes to send to people — not to mention using it for THINKING, which is probably the best part.
- adamwiggins 4y agoThanks for the kind words, Oliver. And yeah, funny how using computing devices for thinking is still such a novel idea, more than half a century after Engelbart wrote about computers augmenting human intellect!
- yes_but_no 4y agoI really like the idea but even "How Muse boards work" board lagging on my iPad pro 10.5 and I don't enjoy the pen feel. I think default notes app or even better Concepts app (which is another infinite canvas app and doesn't lag) have a much better pen feeling. Still subbed tho.
- adamwiggins 4y agoThanks for trying & buying. Concepts has amazing pens (makes sense because it's focused on drawing), but agree we can/should improve the ink experience a lot.
- dshipper 4y agoVery satisfied Muse user. It's great for compiling lots of research, reading PDFs, and basically getting a good visual map of what you're learning.
- adamwiggins 4y agoThanks Dan! Hope the Mac app is a good addition to your workflows as well.