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> which can work with any OS, incl. firmware updates. Keyboard that needs firmware updates? Yuck. It’s an input device. I’ll stick with my 12 year old WASD Cod

> which can work with any OS, incl. firmware updates. Keyboard that needs firmware updates? Yuck. It’s an input device. I’ll stick with my 12 year old WASD Code and Model M thank you very much. /end boomer

bayindirh 4y ago
No. Logitech sometimes push firmware updates for their receivers for security reasons. While my G700 is also capable of firmware updates, they didn't push anything to it since I bought it a decade ago.
- newsclues 4y ago
  Yeah, security updates for my keyboard is not a selling feature.
  - tekknik 4y ago
    Literally any keyboard running over USB has software. They’re not as simple devices as people think.
  - tmottabr 4y ago
    it is not for the keyboard.. it is for the wireless interface that it uses to connected to the computer and the dongle.. the unifying dongle had some security problems detected in the past that required firmware updates to fix..
- alophawen 4y ago
  The Logitech unifying receiver is FUBAR and no firmware updates will remedy that.
  - bayindirh 4y ago
    That's a pretty strong opinion on something so widely deployed and can work without any problems in a place which is very polluted with radio traffic and jamming in some frequencies. I had a Microsoft Bluetooth mouse which constantly lost connection where I live. No Logitech receiver even skipped in that place.
    - alophawen 4y ago
      You say it is an opinion but Logitech did abandon the receiver because they could not fix the security and instead released the Logitech Bolt with encrypted communication between peripherals, in order to not lose more corporate customers due to crappy security.
      - bayindirh 4y ago
        If my mind is not playing games with me, Unifying is around 10 years old at this point. It might be inadequate in today’s world, but it had a pretty good run for something like that. They may had to make breaking changes to it at some point, but it’s already old technology, so moving to bolt doesn’t make Logitech an incompetent company in my eyes.
  - tmottabr 4y ago
    i guess this is why new products are using the Bolt receiver instead, that they claim is not compatible with the older Unifying receiver.. On the other hand, if the Bolt is any better then the Unifying only time will tell, but i do not have my hope up..
utexaspunk 4y ago
"What's that? I couldn't hear you over my keyboard clacking!"
- Kerrick 4y ago
  I bought a mechanical keyboard with clicky blue switches and brought it to work at my open office company. Very quickly my coworkers encouraged me to buy one with silent clear switches. I now own two. The clicky one stays at home.
  - krallja 4y ago
    > open office company They were so close to getting it, too.
  - seanmcdirmid 4y ago
    I chose to WFH over RTO because I really like using my mechanical keyboard.
  - wing-_-nuts 4y ago
    I want a mechanical keyboard that's as quiet as possible. I assume you did research to find the best options. Would you have any resources available?
    - dotancohen 4y ago
      Quiet as possible: Reds (any company, I prefer Cherry). Quiet enough that your coworkers won't hear it, yet very comfortable to type on for those new to mechanical keyboards: Browns.
      - tekknik 4y ago
        Reds + orings, or brown + orings. A lot of the sound comes from someone bottoming out the keys.
        4y ago
FireBeyond 4y ago
Typing this from my WASD Code Keyboard, that I love - am on my third (mostly coffee spills, not mechanical failure)... ... you do realize that these guys have firmware updates, too? https://support.wasdkeyboards.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018518874-Keyboard-Firmware-Updates https://support.wasdkeyboards.com/hc/en-us/articles/36001851...
- morsch 4y ago
  I kind of would have expected a $175 keyboard to survive a coffee spill. It doesn't really happen anymore, but as a kid I must have spilled soda on my no-name keyboards once a month, with no ill effects.
  - Root_Denied 4y ago
    One benefit of membrane keyboards is that the membrane would prevent liquids from reaching down into the sensor components. That being said, I've resurrected my WASD Code keyboard a few times from coffee and water spills. It can be taken apart and cleaned with rubbing alcohol, left to dry, and reassembled pretty easily. I usually do this anyway every 18-24 months at this point for sanitary reasons.

bayindirh 4y ago

No. Logitech sometimes push firmware updates for their receivers for security reasons. While my G700 is also capable of firmware updates, they didn't push anything to it since I bought it a decade ago.

newsclues 4y ago
Yeah, security updates for my keyboard is not a selling feature.
- tekknik 4y ago
  Literally any keyboard running over USB has software. They’re not as simple devices as people think.
- tmottabr 4y ago
  it is not for the keyboard.. it is for the wireless interface that it uses to connected to the computer and the dongle.. the unifying dongle had some security problems detected in the past that required firmware updates to fix..
alophawen 4y ago
The Logitech unifying receiver is FUBAR and no firmware updates will remedy that.
- bayindirh 4y ago
  That's a pretty strong opinion on something so widely deployed and can work without any problems in a place which is very polluted with radio traffic and jamming in some frequencies. I had a Microsoft Bluetooth mouse which constantly lost connection where I live. No Logitech receiver even skipped in that place.
  - alophawen 4y ago
    You say it is an opinion but Logitech did abandon the receiver because they could not fix the security and instead released the Logitech Bolt with encrypted communication between peripherals, in order to not lose more corporate customers due to crappy security.
    - bayindirh 4y ago
      If my mind is not playing games with me, Unifying is around 10 years old at this point. It might be inadequate in today’s world, but it had a pretty good run for something like that. They may had to make breaking changes to it at some point, but it’s already old technology, so moving to bolt doesn’t make Logitech an incompetent company in my eyes.
- tmottabr 4y ago
  i guess this is why new products are using the Bolt receiver instead, that they claim is not compatible with the older Unifying receiver.. On the other hand, if the Bolt is any better then the Unifying only time will tell, but i do not have my hope up..

utexaspunk 4y ago

"What's that? I couldn't hear you over my keyboard clacking!"

Kerrick 4y ago
I bought a mechanical keyboard with clicky blue switches and brought it to work at my open office company. Very quickly my coworkers encouraged me to buy one with silent clear switches. I now own two. The clicky one stays at home.
- krallja 4y ago
  > open office company They were so close to getting it, too.
- seanmcdirmid 4y ago
  I chose to WFH over RTO because I really like using my mechanical keyboard.
- wing-_-nuts 4y ago
  I want a mechanical keyboard that's as quiet as possible. I assume you did research to find the best options. Would you have any resources available?
  - dotancohen 4y ago
    Quiet as possible: Reds (any company, I prefer Cherry). Quiet enough that your coworkers won't hear it, yet very comfortable to type on for those new to mechanical keyboards: Browns.
    - tekknik 4y ago
      Reds + orings, or brown + orings. A lot of the sound comes from someone bottoming out the keys.
      - 4y ago

FireBeyond 4y ago

Typing this from my WASD Code Keyboard, that I love - am on my third (mostly coffee spills, not mechanical failure)... ... you do realize that these guys have firmware updates, too? https://support.wasdkeyboards.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018518874-Keyboard-Firmware-Updates https://support.wasdkeyboards.com/hc/en-us/articles/36001851...

morsch 4y ago
I kind of would have expected a $175 keyboard to survive a coffee spill. It doesn't really happen anymore, but as a kid I must have spilled soda on my no-name keyboards once a month, with no ill effects.
- Root_Denied 4y ago
  One benefit of membrane keyboards is that the membrane would prevent liquids from reaching down into the sensor components. That being said, I've resurrected my WASD Code keyboard a few times from coffee and water spills. It can be taken apart and cleaned with rubbing alcohol, left to dry, and reassembled pretty easily. I usually do this anyway every 18-24 months at this point for sanitary reasons.