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I use the calendar one. Since it went not free, the free version doesn't generate notifications or alerts anymore. I almost missed appointments or meetings bec

by jokoon 4y ago

I use the calendar one. Since it went not free, the free version doesn't generate notifications or alerts anymore. I almost missed appointments or meetings because of this. This is planned obsolescence at best. I seriously despise everything about this.

cowtools 4y ago
That's odd. I got the calendar app off of f-droid and it works just fine for me.
josephcsible 4y ago
You only have to pay if you want to get it from the Play Store. They make the pro version available for free on F-Droid.
- SCLeo 4y ago
  ... This is obviously not about the money. Everyone here can easily afford to buy the pro version off the Play Store. The issue is about them pushing people to pay by removing features AFTER they already invested their time, data, and habit into the app.
  - notyourday 4y ago
    - jasonm23 4y ago
      It's obviously not that. The snark isn't appropriate here. Bad faith practices / dark patterns are obnoxious, period. These apps present themselves as free and make a point of putting this message front and center. Then nag you incessantly and quietly remove feature to push people to upgrade. This is dishonest, counterproductive and simply lead to bad reviews and the apps being uninstalled. The marketing is obviously an attempt to leverage the good faith around OSS and then does a full 180. It's a con / scam and an ineffective one.
      - notyourday 4y ago
        > The marketing is obviously an attempt to leverage the good faith around OSS and then does a full 180. The level of entitlement here is staggering: source is available. Go modify it yourself and build it yourself. Oh, right, you don't want to because it is below your pay rate but you want others to do it for free.
Aachen 4y ago
Use the older version you liked then? I somehow feel a sense of entitlement here. Changing a pricing model for new releases has nothing to do with planned obsolescence; planned obsolescence is making something bad so that you have to buy it new sooner. You got it free. The whole concept also isn't a software thing: one can limit a license duration but software doesn't wear and break prematurely. A date-based kill switch might be the closest thing and that's not what happened here.
- kortilla 4y ago
  When software auto updates that’s effectively what happened here.
  - Aachen 4y ago
    There's no downgrade option on Google Play Store?
    - lupire 4y ago
      Nope.
      - Aachen 4y ago
        Oh :| Then I guess all I can recommend is f-droid where there is such an option (and also the issue wouldn't have manifested in the first place but that'd likely be different if f-droid were more popular)
    - flobosg 4y ago
      There’s no such option on the store.

by jokoon 4y ago

cowtools 4y ago

That's odd. I got the calendar app off of f-droid and it works just fine for me.

josephcsible 4y ago

You only have to pay if you want to get it from the Play Store. They make the pro version available for free on F-Droid.

SCLeo 4y ago
... This is obviously not about the money. Everyone here can easily afford to buy the pro version off the Play Store. The issue is about them pushing people to pay by removing features AFTER they already invested their time, data, and habit into the app.
- notyourday 4y ago
  - jasonm23 4y ago
    It's obviously not that. The snark isn't appropriate here. Bad faith practices / dark patterns are obnoxious, period. These apps present themselves as free and make a point of putting this message front and center. Then nag you incessantly and quietly remove feature to push people to upgrade. This is dishonest, counterproductive and simply lead to bad reviews and the apps being uninstalled. The marketing is obviously an attempt to leverage the good faith around OSS and then does a full 180. It's a con / scam and an ineffective one.
    - notyourday 4y ago
      > The marketing is obviously an attempt to leverage the good faith around OSS and then does a full 180. The level of entitlement here is staggering: source is available. Go modify it yourself and build it yourself. Oh, right, you don't want to because it is below your pay rate but you want others to do it for free.

Aachen 4y ago

Use the older version you liked then? I somehow feel a sense of entitlement here. Changing a pricing model for new releases has nothing to do with planned obsolescence; planned obsolescence is making something bad so that you have to buy it new sooner. You got it free. The whole concept also isn't a software thing: one can limit a license duration but software doesn't wear and break prematurely. A date-based kill switch might be the closest thing and that's not what happened here.

kortilla 4y ago
When software auto updates that’s effectively what happened here.
- Aachen 4y ago
  There's no downgrade option on Google Play Store?
  - lupire 4y ago
    Nope.
    - Aachen 4y ago
      Oh :| Then I guess all I can recommend is f-droid where there is such an option (and also the issue wouldn't have manifested in the first place but that'd likely be different if f-droid were more popular)
  - flobosg 4y ago
    There’s no such option on the store.