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I have read that the outbreak is concentrated in gay men via sexual transmission. The article doesn't say anything about that, which I would say is par for the

I have read that the outbreak is concentrated in gay men via sexual transmission. The article doesn't say anything about that, which I would say is par for the course for public health communication, if this is indeed the case.

andrewclunn 4y ago
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- cardiffspaceman 4y ago
  I'm not sure what you're saying agrees with the fact that people informally called AIDS "gay cancer" before it had an official name that was a little memorable.
- macintux 4y ago
  I remember when AIDS was spreading and it was described as “gay cancer” and mostly ignored by the U.S. administration because of that.
  - mdp2021 4y ago
    Just found this: > New York Times headline: "Rare cancer seen in 41 homosexuals” http://www.nytimes.com/1981/07/03/us/rare-cancer-seen-in-41-homosexuals.html http://www.nytimes.com/1981/07/03/us/rare-cancer-seen-in-41-...
- Supermancho 4y ago
  I remember. Homosexuality was still largely taboo and sex was definitely not something mentioned on the news, until some tipping point where it became normalized. People tend to remember the after, not the before for this specific transition.
- m0a0t0 4y ago
  Here's Reagan's press secretary laughing and joking about "the gay plague" when only a few hundred had died, you homophobic ghoul https://www.vox.com/2015/12/1/9828348/ronald-reagan-hiv-aids https://www.vox.com/2015/12/1/9828348/ronald-reagan-hiv-aids
- pessimizer 4y ago
  It was originally called GRIDS, and when it started the coverage was entirely focused on gay men. The media/government made an effort to contradict that 1) in order to protect straight people who thought it was impossible for them to catch, and 2) to counteract the public propensity for hate crimes against minorities when they are perceived as dangerous.
- mdp2021 4y ago
  > EVERYTHING possible not to mention how tipped the outbreaks were among Quite the opposite here.
cronix 4y ago
From what I've read, you're partially right in that many are from "gay, bisexual or have sex with men," but have not concluded that it is specifically due to sexual transmission. The WHO used the term "leading theory" when talking about "sexual transmission." > In an interview with The Associated Press, Dr. David Heymann, who formerly headed WHO's emergencies department, said the leading theory to explain the spread of the disease was sexual transmission among gay and bisexual men at two raves held in Spain and Belgium. Monkeypox has not previously triggered widespread outbreaks beyond Africa, where it is endemic in animals. > "We know monkeypox can spread when there is close contact with the lesions of someone who is infected, and it looks like sexual contact has now amplified that transmission," said Heymann. > Other scientists have pointed out that it will be difficult to disentangle whether it is sex itself or the close contact related to sex that has driven the recent spread of monkeypox across Europe. > U.K. officials have said "a notable proportion" of the cases in Britain and Europe have been in young men with no history of travel to Africa and who are gay, bisexual or have sex with men. Authorities in Portugal and Spain also said their cases were in men who mostly had sex with other men and whose infections were picked up when they sought help for lesions at sexual health clinics. The only concrete thing I think we can reasonably conclude is that it is easier to spread via 2 naked people who have a lot of skin on skin contact vs say 2 clothed people hugging, regardless of the specific activity engaged in. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/monkeypox-spread-sex-raves-europe-world-health-organization-adviser/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/monkeypox-spread-sex-raves-euro...

andrewclunn 4y ago

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cardiffspaceman 4y ago
I'm not sure what you're saying agrees with the fact that people informally called AIDS "gay cancer" before it had an official name that was a little memorable.
macintux 4y ago
I remember when AIDS was spreading and it was described as “gay cancer” and mostly ignored by the U.S. administration because of that.
- mdp2021 4y ago
  Just found this: > New York Times headline: "Rare cancer seen in 41 homosexuals” http://www.nytimes.com/1981/07/03/us/rare-cancer-seen-in-41-homosexuals.html http://www.nytimes.com/1981/07/03/us/rare-cancer-seen-in-41-...
Supermancho 4y ago
I remember. Homosexuality was still largely taboo and sex was definitely not something mentioned on the news, until some tipping point where it became normalized. People tend to remember the after, not the before for this specific transition.
m0a0t0 4y ago
Here's Reagan's press secretary laughing and joking about "the gay plague" when only a few hundred had died, you homophobic ghoul https://www.vox.com/2015/12/1/9828348/ronald-reagan-hiv-aids https://www.vox.com/2015/12/1/9828348/ronald-reagan-hiv-aids
pessimizer 4y ago
It was originally called GRIDS, and when it started the coverage was entirely focused on gay men. The media/government made an effort to contradict that 1) in order to protect straight people who thought it was impossible for them to catch, and 2) to counteract the public propensity for hate crimes against minorities when they are perceived as dangerous.
mdp2021 4y ago
> EVERYTHING possible not to mention how tipped the outbreaks were among Quite the opposite here.

cronix 4y ago

From what I've read, you're partially right in that many are from "gay, bisexual or have sex with men," but have not concluded that it is specifically due to sexual transmission. The WHO used the term "leading theory" when talking about "sexual transmission." > In an interview with The Associated Press, Dr. David Heymann, who formerly headed WHO's emergencies department, said the leading theory to explain the spread of the disease was sexual transmission among gay and bisexual men at two raves held in Spain and Belgium. Monkeypox has not previously triggered widespread outbreaks beyond Africa, where it is endemic in animals. > "We know monkeypox can spread when there is close contact with the lesions of someone who is infected, and it looks like sexual contact has now amplified that transmission," said Heymann. > Other scientists have pointed out that it will be difficult to disentangle whether it is sex itself or the close contact related to sex that has driven the recent spread of monkeypox across Europe. > U.K. officials have said "a notable proportion" of the cases in Britain and Europe have been in young men with no history of travel to Africa and who are gay, bisexual or have sex with men. Authorities in Portugal and Spain also said their cases were in men who mostly had sex with other men and whose infections were picked up when they sought help for lesions at sexual health clinics. The only concrete thing I think we can reasonably conclude is that it is easier to spread via 2 naked people who have a lot of skin on skin contact vs say 2 clothed people hugging, regardless of the specific activity engaged in. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/monkeypox-spread-sex-raves-europe-world-health-organization-adviser/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/monkeypox-spread-sex-raves-euro...