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We really need regulations to standardize batteries and charge stations in the US. Federal govt really dropped the ball here and their failure to do so is hampe

by lvl102 4y ago

We really need regulations to standardize batteries and charge stations in the US. Federal govt really dropped the ball here and their failure to do so is hampering adoption. And I don’t know how the US govt gave away billions without these specific conditions.

MBCook 4y ago
Everyone* has standardized on CCS. The only hold outs using ChaDEmo (the Leaf) has given up. It took to long but we’re there. At this point I think China may be the only country with its own standard. US, EU, and I believe the rest of Asia are on the CCS train. *The holdout, of course, is Tesla. They had good reason at the time (CCS didn’t exist), and their connector is better, but here we are. They’ve gone CCS in Europe I believe due to regulations. If they did so here to it would all be solved. They have to add CCS anyway to Superchargers to open their network as Elon has promised.
- mlindner 4y ago
  You seem to be confused. CCS is not a shared standard between the US and EU. They're completely different and incompatible from each other between the US and EU. The US version is objectively worse than the EU version and significantly worse than Tesla's standard.
  - MBCook 4y ago
    I have never heard that American CCS is different from European CCS. Interesting. But is that a big problem? It’s not exactly common to move a car between America and Europe/Asia. If you had to I’d imagine the dealer could swap the plugs on the car.
- lvl102 4y ago
  You’re right we do have a standard but that’s not the same as having regulations in place to enforce those standards. Normally, I wouldn’t mind a free market approach but with electric cars, we want to accelerate adoption as much as we can. We don’t have the luxury of waiting 10-20 years for Tesla to finally come to senses.
- fomine3 4y ago
  CHAdeMO is still dominance here in Japan and no sign CCS to be introduced.

by lvl102 4y ago

MBCook 4y ago

Everyone* has standardized on CCS. The only hold outs using ChaDEmo (the Leaf) has given up. It took to long but we’re there. At this point I think China may be the only country with its own standard. US, EU, and I believe the rest of Asia are on the CCS train. *The holdout, of course, is Tesla. They had good reason at the time (CCS didn’t exist), and their connector is better, but here we are. They’ve gone CCS in Europe I believe due to regulations. If they did so here to it would all be solved. They have to add CCS anyway to Superchargers to open their network as Elon has promised.

mlindner 4y ago
You seem to be confused. CCS is not a shared standard between the US and EU. They're completely different and incompatible from each other between the US and EU. The US version is objectively worse than the EU version and significantly worse than Tesla's standard.
- MBCook 4y ago
  I have never heard that American CCS is different from European CCS. Interesting. But is that a big problem? It’s not exactly common to move a car between America and Europe/Asia. If you had to I’d imagine the dealer could swap the plugs on the car.
lvl102 4y ago
You’re right we do have a standard but that’s not the same as having regulations in place to enforce those standards. Normally, I wouldn’t mind a free market approach but with electric cars, we want to accelerate adoption as much as we can. We don’t have the luxury of waiting 10-20 years for Tesla to finally come to senses.
fomine3 4y ago
CHAdeMO is still dominance here in Japan and no sign CCS to be introduced.