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I don't know about homes, but I suspect there is a reason that Nashville is #1 in thefts of guns from cars.

outgunned 4y ago
I’m not tracking - what is the implication? Anecdotally, was in Nashville for a work training event at a Fairfield near the new Grand Ol’ Opry. Of the 2 dozen attendees, all with anything remotely “gun” suggestive had their trucks burglarized at the hotel. Several lost weapons during the burglaries.
- queuebert 4y ago
  Gun ownership is common here, as is (apparently) leaving the guns in cars. Criminals need an illegal source of guns, since they can't pass a background check, so they steal them from the copious amounts of cars containing them.
  - yeetawayhn 4y ago
    >Gun ownership is common here, as is (apparently) leaving the guns in cars. Would you prefer that they take them into the business, regardless of whether it is posted to not allow carry?
stevenicr 4y ago
There are several reasons for this. One being that we currently can not (currently legally) use deadly force to protect property like they can in Texas.. Although the desire to change that is changing bit by bit every week as hundreds of cars are broken into every week (and have been). Two is that cops here have not pursued car break-ins very well imho. Even when you call them with video evidence, a license plate, full description of act in progress.. crickets.. everyone knows this - and it makes it worse. I went to a MNPD meeting a couple years ago and they had proof that criminals were targeting two particular locations in the area in which the business had the TSA thing Posted saying you have to leave guns in your car, can't being them in. Another factor is that juveniles have particular high reward and low risk of punishment. Everyone knows it - and they use it to their advantage a lot. There's nest cam video of one woman following her kids in her car while they hit car after car / house after house. Every other week the cops put our a report saying lock your car, so many guns stolen this week - blah blah.. it's like they are blaming the victims instead of helping to do more policing. This isn't a dig at the cops - I get it, they are understaffed, have lots of priorities and even when they catch people they often do no time.. so why go chasing after some kids that are likely to shoot back at you (which they did to some cops about 18 months ago or so) Yes other reasons include that there are lots of guns in and around Nashville. So the odds of getting one when you break into a car are higher than in NY or Frisco I guess. Another thing is that gun safes for a car are not optimal at this time. Sure if you have a one of the few vehicles they make direct fit safes for, you can spend a couple bills and get a good one - but we need better options. There are of course many other factors, income inequality and so many other things of course, it's a long list, I hate to see people try to point at any one thing and say 'yeah if that then this would't be a thing' - So I've been brainstorming this now again for a while, and chatted with an auto-body shop guy for a bit and am thinking of a combination of an existing safe option that is around 20 bucks combined with a metal U that goes around the part of the passenger seat thing and locks similar to a clamp on cables like a dog runner - this kind of thing could make a huge impact and I should spend some more time on it.

I’m not tracking - what is the implication? Anecdotally, was in Nashville for a work training event at a Fairfield near the new Grand Ol’ Opry. Of the 2 dozen attendees, all with anything remotely “gun” suggestive had their trucks burglarized at the hotel. Several lost weapons during the burglaries.

queuebert 4y ago
Gun ownership is common here, as is (apparently) leaving the guns in cars. Criminals need an illegal source of guns, since they can't pass a background check, so they steal them from the copious amounts of cars containing them.
- yeetawayhn 4y ago
  >Gun ownership is common here, as is (apparently) leaving the guns in cars. Would you prefer that they take them into the business, regardless of whether it is posted to not allow carry?

stevenicr 4y ago

There are several reasons for this. One being that we currently can not (currently legally) use deadly force to protect property like they can in Texas.. Although the desire to change that is changing bit by bit every week as hundreds of cars are broken into every week (and have been). Two is that cops here have not pursued car break-ins very well imho. Even when you call them with video evidence, a license plate, full description of act in progress.. crickets.. everyone knows this - and it makes it worse. I went to a MNPD meeting a couple years ago and they had proof that criminals were targeting two particular locations in the area in which the business had the TSA thing Posted saying you have to leave guns in your car, can't being them in. Another factor is that juveniles have particular high reward and low risk of punishment. Everyone knows it - and they use it to their advantage a lot. There's nest cam video of one woman following her kids in her car while they hit car after car / house after house. Every other week the cops put our a report saying lock your car, so many guns stolen this week - blah blah.. it's like they are blaming the victims instead of helping to do more policing. This isn't a dig at the cops - I get it, they are understaffed, have lots of priorities and even when they catch people they often do no time.. so why go chasing after some kids that are likely to shoot back at you (which they did to some cops about 18 months ago or so) Yes other reasons include that there are lots of guns in and around Nashville. So the odds of getting one when you break into a car are higher than in NY or Frisco I guess. Another thing is that gun safes for a car are not optimal at this time. Sure if you have a one of the few vehicles they make direct fit safes for, you can spend a couple bills and get a good one - but we need better options. There are of course many other factors, income inequality and so many other things of course, it's a long list, I hate to see people try to point at any one thing and say 'yeah if that then this would't be a thing' - So I've been brainstorming this now again for a while, and chatted with an auto-body shop guy for a bit and am thinking of a combination of an existing safe option that is around 20 bucks combined with a metal U that goes around the part of the passenger seat thing and locks similar to a clamp on cables like a dog runner - this kind of thing could make a huge impact and I should spend some more time on it.