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>Sorry, but there is no world in which shopping at the grocer every day is more convenient than shopping once every 1.5 or even 2 weeks or so. For you. I keep

>Sorry, but there is no world in which shopping at the grocer every day is more convenient than shopping once every 1.5 or even 2 weeks or so. For you. I keep seeing your replies throughout this chain and I can't help but notice that you seem to be astounded by differences in what ultimately amounts to personal preference. What might be convenient shopping for you may not be convenient shopping for others. Lifestyle, locale, general eating habits and personal taste, among other things, are significant contributing factors to these differences.

whimsicalism 4y ago
Yes, I am saying that if you cook frequently for yourself, it takes more time to shop every day. Some people enjoy going on walks every day, some people order lots of take out, etc. All of those are acceptable. I am only largely disagreeing with the people who claim that somehow these two alternatives take a comparable amount of time (and the people suggesting that I must have no taste in vegetables or live in suburbia).
- amelius 4y ago
  But what about the claim in the video that there is more food waste in the US?
- prmoustache 4y ago
  > Yes, I am saying that if you cook frequently for yourself, it takes more time to shop every day. I don't think there is a single rule. I depends entirely which day/hour you do the shopping and where. When I lived in Switzerland supermarkets were closed from saturday at 5pm during the weekend. Which means doing your shopping on friday night or saturday would take a lot of time as a lot of people were doing the same. Doing it any other day of the week was much quieter. I don't necessarily shop every day, but I do it several times a week. Also I don't buy my vegetables at the supermarket but at the fruteria (spanish place where you only buy fruits and vegetables). I mostly avoid premade dishes, I even do my own pizzas and tart doughs as well as bread sometimes. That means I am cooking every day. Problem with shopping once a week is I would have to decide for 7 breakfasts, 7 meals and at least 6 dinners. That is a lot of planning and live very little room for improvisation unless you are wiling to waste things or have a giant refrigerator which I have no room for in my european kitchen. And yes I enjoy going out for a walk/ride every day after work so it is not annoying at all. There is a lot of parameters to take into account, home space, schedules, shop opening hours, proximity, if tap water is drinkable and taste good...YMMV.
  - whimsicalism 4y ago
    > Problem with shopping once a week is I would have to decide for 7 breakfasts, 7 meals and at least 6 dinners. That is a lot of planning and live very little room for improvisation unless you are wiling to waste things or have a giant refrigerator which I have no room for in my european kitchen. I think that is an overestimate because you can have leftovers and also breakfast is generally pretty easy, but I agree that there is greater planning overhead. My partner and I compile a list of all the meals we want to make for the next two weeks before shopping, if you get in the habit it doesn't take too too long.
    - prmoustache 4y ago
      Well anyway I couldn't do that whithout relocating. 1. my fridge wouldn't be big enough 2. I have chosen to live carless because I don't have my own parking space and it is very difficult to find a parking space at any given time of the day close to my place. 3. I can only carry 2 european sized grocery shooping bags and a small backpack with my motorbike (a maxi scooter as they call it) when I go there with my gf. I can carry more in a hiking backpack if I go alone and I could theorically buy a bigger top case, similar to the big cube the pizza delivery riders are using but that would still be less than a fully loaded shopping cart.
- jjulius 4y ago
  >Yes, I am saying that if you cook frequently for yourself, it takes more time to shop every day. And I am saying that someone may still find it more "convenient" to do so in spite of whatever additional time may or may not be involved. Convenience is far too nuanced and dependent upon personal preference for you to be stating, as an absolute, that it is not more convenient for someone to shop every day than it is once every week or two. And I say this as someone who shops on a more weekly or bi-weekly basis.
acheron 4y ago
Everyone replying to him is doing the same thing.

whimsicalism 4y ago

Yes, I am saying that if you cook frequently for yourself, it takes more time to shop every day. Some people enjoy going on walks every day, some people order lots of take out, etc. All of those are acceptable. I am only largely disagreeing with the people who claim that somehow these two alternatives take a comparable amount of time (and the people suggesting that I must have no taste in vegetables or live in suburbia).

amelius 4y ago
But what about the claim in the video that there is more food waste in the US?
prmoustache 4y ago
> Yes, I am saying that if you cook frequently for yourself, it takes more time to shop every day. I don't think there is a single rule. I depends entirely which day/hour you do the shopping and where. When I lived in Switzerland supermarkets were closed from saturday at 5pm during the weekend. Which means doing your shopping on friday night or saturday would take a lot of time as a lot of people were doing the same. Doing it any other day of the week was much quieter. I don't necessarily shop every day, but I do it several times a week. Also I don't buy my vegetables at the supermarket but at the fruteria (spanish place where you only buy fruits and vegetables). I mostly avoid premade dishes, I even do my own pizzas and tart doughs as well as bread sometimes. That means I am cooking every day. Problem with shopping once a week is I would have to decide for 7 breakfasts, 7 meals and at least 6 dinners. That is a lot of planning and live very little room for improvisation unless you are wiling to waste things or have a giant refrigerator which I have no room for in my european kitchen. And yes I enjoy going out for a walk/ride every day after work so it is not annoying at all. There is a lot of parameters to take into account, home space, schedules, shop opening hours, proximity, if tap water is drinkable and taste good...YMMV.
- whimsicalism 4y ago
  > Problem with shopping once a week is I would have to decide for 7 breakfasts, 7 meals and at least 6 dinners. That is a lot of planning and live very little room for improvisation unless you are wiling to waste things or have a giant refrigerator which I have no room for in my european kitchen. I think that is an overestimate because you can have leftovers and also breakfast is generally pretty easy, but I agree that there is greater planning overhead. My partner and I compile a list of all the meals we want to make for the next two weeks before shopping, if you get in the habit it doesn't take too too long.
  - prmoustache 4y ago
    Well anyway I couldn't do that whithout relocating. 1. my fridge wouldn't be big enough 2. I have chosen to live carless because I don't have my own parking space and it is very difficult to find a parking space at any given time of the day close to my place. 3. I can only carry 2 european sized grocery shooping bags and a small backpack with my motorbike (a maxi scooter as they call it) when I go there with my gf. I can carry more in a hiking backpack if I go alone and I could theorically buy a bigger top case, similar to the big cube the pizza delivery riders are using but that would still be less than a fully loaded shopping cart.
jjulius 4y ago
>Yes, I am saying that if you cook frequently for yourself, it takes more time to shop every day. And I am saying that someone may still find it more "convenient" to do so in spite of whatever additional time may or may not be involved. Convenience is far too nuanced and dependent upon personal preference for you to be stating, as an absolute, that it is not more convenient for someone to shop every day than it is once every week or two. And I say this as someone who shops on a more weekly or bi-weekly basis.

acheron 4y ago

Everyone replying to him is doing the same thing.