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The HN (and related) communities really need to get outside their bubbles once in awhile. Why does Microsoft keep adding features that are unpopular with people

The HN (and related) communities really need to get outside their bubbles once in awhile. Why does Microsoft keep adding features that are unpopular with people who read ghacks.net? Maybe because people who read ghacks.net are a tiny segment of the population and are not representative of most Windows users.

shrimp_emoji 4y ago
Ah, yes, quit the poweruser nerd bubble and witness the soberness of the Real World of Most Users, who actually love forced reboots and the Tile menu.
- phendrenad2 4y ago
  Unironically, yes.
ddingus 4y ago
Most users do not like changes that add very little value despite requiring they make regular investments in skills they already invested in and seek to derive value from. Microsoft, and they are by no means alone in this, do that ALL THE TIME. And the most consistent reason they have provided is some benefit to them. They imply it means value for users, but that is a secondary rationalization. Source: Many normie type windows users asking me, "Why?" ...often in tandem with, "How?" Edit: Regarding the tile menu, the normies often just type something now, then pin it so they do not have to navigate a less familiar and arguably less interface again later.
- phendrenad2 4y ago
  Well you have your sources and I have mine. But my experience is completely the opposite of yours.
  - ddingus 4y ago
    Which very strongly suggests significant percentages of users are impacted. It is far from a monoculture out there. Right now, we are seeing a lot of features and the UX in particular, being dumbed down. That is impacting a lot of people and it really is not helping too many people, except the big companies wanting a common experience across mobile, desktop, etc... Overall, it is a growing net loss, unnecessary.
    - phendrenad2 4y ago
      I don't think a lot of users are impacted. Most of the "dumbing down" is actually useful feature improvements and simplifications, and most people who care are a vocal minority.

shrimp_emoji 4y ago

Ah, yes, quit the poweruser nerd bubble and witness the soberness of the Real World of Most Users, who actually love forced reboots and the Tile menu.

phendrenad2 4y ago
Unironically, yes.

ddingus 4y ago

Most users do not like changes that add very little value despite requiring they make regular investments in skills they already invested in and seek to derive value from. Microsoft, and they are by no means alone in this, do that ALL THE TIME. And the most consistent reason they have provided is some benefit to them. They imply it means value for users, but that is a secondary rationalization. Source: Many normie type windows users asking me, "Why?" ...often in tandem with, "How?" Edit: Regarding the tile menu, the normies often just type something now, then pin it so they do not have to navigate a less familiar and arguably less interface again later.

phendrenad2 4y ago
Well you have your sources and I have mine. But my experience is completely the opposite of yours.
- ddingus 4y ago
  Which very strongly suggests significant percentages of users are impacted. It is far from a monoculture out there. Right now, we are seeing a lot of features and the UX in particular, being dumbed down. That is impacting a lot of people and it really is not helping too many people, except the big companies wanting a common experience across mobile, desktop, etc... Overall, it is a growing net loss, unnecessary.
  - phendrenad2 4y ago
    I don't think a lot of users are impacted. Most of the "dumbing down" is actually useful feature improvements and simplifications, and most people who care are a vocal minority.