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I find it bizarre and unsettling that there is a big group of HN users who seem to be scared of death

snvzz 4y ago
SENS isn't about death. It's about undoing aging. For as long as I am alive, I'd rather stay as young and healthy as possible. Wouldn't you?
- bowsamic 4y ago
  No not really
- denton-scratch 4y ago
  How can you "stay young", if you are in fact old? Youth isn't just a question of fitness and years. Youth pulls in recklessness, a belief in your own immortality, an uncertainty about who you are or what you're for, and a diminished awareness of the past (because you've experienced less of it). There's no medical treatment or fitness regime that will give those things back to you. If you even want them; the loss of those things, or at least some of them, might be considered wisdom.
  - snvzz 4y ago
    >How can you "stay young", if you are in fact old? Old would be redefined. Once SENS succeeds, we can easily have 100 year old people with bodies no worse than a 20 year old, both in appearance and function.
- shrimp_emoji 4y ago
  I'd literally like to be the Man From Earth. Not because I terribly fear death or think I'm important/worthy enough to suck oxygen indefinitely but because I figure it'd be fun. I wanna see the singularity, Mars bases, etc. D:
throwawaylonely 4y ago
If you're not, why not die now? If you get an infection that would kill you without medical attention, why not just let it kill you?
- bowsamic 4y ago
  Just because I'm not scared of death doesn't mean I don't see any reason to live. I enjoy life and living. I would pursue treatments but there is eventually a limit past which I would not bother
  - snvzz 4y ago
    SENS is not about keeping people alive and miserable past that limit. It is about undoing aging, so that you can be young and healthy instead. Living longer is just a side effect of that, as aging kills people.
    - bowsamic 4y ago
      Yeah I don't really have any desire to be younger or healthier
      - snvzz 4y ago
        That's OK I guess, but also quite unusual unless you're young to begin with.
- denton-scratch 4y ago
  I'm not scared of death, but there would be several people that would regret my passing. Also, when someone kills themself, it is normal (i.e. the expected response) to feel guilt and pain, even if nobody, including yourself, thinks you were in any way responsible. I've formally informed the health services that I don't want to be resuscitated in the event of a stroke or heart attack. If I get an infection, however, I'm not likely to die; Ebola is rather rare. Much likelier is that I'd end up disabled, in pain or unable to care for myself.

SENS isn't about death. It's about undoing aging. For as long as I am alive, I'd rather stay as young and healthy as possible. Wouldn't you?

bowsamic 4y ago
No not really
denton-scratch 4y ago
How can you "stay young", if you are in fact old? Youth isn't just a question of fitness and years. Youth pulls in recklessness, a belief in your own immortality, an uncertainty about who you are or what you're for, and a diminished awareness of the past (because you've experienced less of it). There's no medical treatment or fitness regime that will give those things back to you. If you even want them; the loss of those things, or at least some of them, might be considered wisdom.
- snvzz 4y ago
  >How can you "stay young", if you are in fact old? Old would be redefined. Once SENS succeeds, we can easily have 100 year old people with bodies no worse than a 20 year old, both in appearance and function.
shrimp_emoji 4y ago
I'd literally like to be the Man From Earth. Not because I terribly fear death or think I'm important/worthy enough to suck oxygen indefinitely but because I figure it'd be fun. I wanna see the singularity, Mars bases, etc. D:

throwawaylonely 4y ago

If you're not, why not die now? If you get an infection that would kill you without medical attention, why not just let it kill you?

bowsamic 4y ago
Just because I'm not scared of death doesn't mean I don't see any reason to live. I enjoy life and living. I would pursue treatments but there is eventually a limit past which I would not bother
- snvzz 4y ago
  SENS is not about keeping people alive and miserable past that limit. It is about undoing aging, so that you can be young and healthy instead. Living longer is just a side effect of that, as aging kills people.
  - bowsamic 4y ago
    Yeah I don't really have any desire to be younger or healthier
    - snvzz 4y ago
      That's OK I guess, but also quite unusual unless you're young to begin with.
denton-scratch 4y ago
I'm not scared of death, but there would be several people that would regret my passing. Also, when someone kills themself, it is normal (i.e. the expected response) to feel guilt and pain, even if nobody, including yourself, thinks you were in any way responsible. I've formally informed the health services that I don't want to be resuscitated in the event of a stroke or heart attack. If I get an infection, however, I'm not likely to die; Ebola is rather rare. Much likelier is that I'd end up disabled, in pain or unable to care for myself.