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the guide has a section on "How to select an intersection", which considers the other measures like a stop sign and a limit line (common at LA intersections, bu
by clairity 4y ago
the guide has a section on "How to select an intersection", which considers the other measures like a stop sign and a limit line (common at LA intersections, but not universal).
note that pedestrians have right-of-way at every intersection unless explicitly marked otherwise, regardless of crosswalk markings, so drivers should be looking for pedestrians at every intersection.
- whateveracct 4y agoI think this all falls under "playing traffic engineer"
- IshKebab 4y agoTraffic engineers don't have magical abilities. It's not rocket science to select a crossing location. I seriously doubt most traffic changes are even modelled properly. In the UK they still rely on road tubes to count traffic and I don't know if they've even considered networking traffic lights yet (maybe in London).
- mhb 4y agoNo doubt traffic engineers say the same thing about building web sites.
- IshKebab 4y agoAre you suggesting that non-professionals are not capable of making simple websites?
- mhb 4y agoI'm suggesting that whenever you think "it's not rocket science" is an appropriate criticism of someone else's thinking, you should consider whether you are looking at one of Chesterton's fences.
- IshKebab 4y agoAh the old "you probably don't know what you're talking about" fallacies. Trying to make a compelling argument using Chesterton's fence is classic example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
- mhb 4y agoAren't you clever knowing all the hip kid memes? However, I'm not asserting I know more than you about traffic engineering. Just that traffic engineers do.
- IshKebab 4y agoYou're not asserting that traffic engineers know more about traffic engineering than me. You're asserting that I know so little about traffic engineering that I couldn't put a crossing in a sensible place (because there's some mysterious uber-knowledge required to do it that only professional traffic engineers possess).
- mhb 4y agoAs many others have commented, I'm asserting that people, in general, who follow the example of painting these bandit crosswalks don't appreciate the nuances of where it is dangerous to place them. If I have erred in crediting you with too little knowledge in this domain, you have my apology. But before you encourage others to pursue this activity, you probably want to make clear, to them, notwithstanding any appearance of a lack of humility, the distinction between your knowledge and possible shortfalls in theirs.
- whateveracct 4y agoIt's not about raw skill or know-how. It's about society. I don't want to have to worry if Some Guy drew the crosswalk in a dumb location. Crosswalks should be maintained by the govt because that has guardrails despite other problems.
- IshKebab 4y agoWell I agree, but that's because there are more safeguards against governments putting crosswalks in dumb locations (they still do it!) than there are against randos doing it. That doesn't mean that individual people aren't smart enough to "play traffic engineer" because traffic engineering is so super complicated.
- mikhailfranco 4y agoThe right of way for pedestrians at intersections was recently added to the UK 'Highway Code': https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/29/highway-code-update-comes-into-force-in-england-scotland-and-wales https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/29/highway-code...