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How contagious is it? Edit: Unlike SARS-CoV-2, which spreads through tiny air-borne droplets called aerosols, monkeypox is thought to spread from close contact

How contagious is it? Edit: Unlike SARS-CoV-2, which spreads through tiny air-borne droplets called aerosols, monkeypox is thought to spread from close contact with bodily fluids, such as saliva from coughing. That means a person with monkeypox is likely to infect far fewer close contacts than someone with SARS-CoV-2

lalaland1125 4y ago
- busymom0 4y ago
  Is this a serious comment or troll? Is it true that it's spreading via anal sex?
  - tauchunfall 4y ago
    Yes, UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) and Robert Koch Institut (RKI) wrote this. RKI was criticised in German media it could lead to stigmatisation of homosexuals and africans.
    - busymom0 4y ago
      > RKI was criticised in German media it could lead to stigmatisation of homosexuals and africans. Hmmm, wouldn't not making such important information public actually risk the lives of more people? I think more information is always good than less information. Plus straight people also engage in anal sex so it's not really exclusive.
      - true_religion 4y ago
        They are glossing over it with nice language but “stigmatization” puts lives at risk. People don’t merely shun others, they get irritable and often attack those they consider “unclean”. This is something to consider seriously as the rise of right wing nationalist groups means the violence will be organized rather than random pogroms carried out by mobs.
        bavell 4y ago
        Yeah better to put people's lives at risk by depriving them of information in order to potentially avoid stigmatizing someone else, right? Something something right wing violence. My eyes are rolling out of my head.
        aaomidi 4y ago
        Considering what we did with the AIDS epidemic, it's justified to wait until you've got all your facts in order.
        mensetmanusman 4y ago
        The response to aids is still a disaster, it kills 1 million per year globally…
        aaomidi 4y ago
        Yes it is. We're in another pandemic that we're effectively ignoring.
      - StanislavPetrov 4y ago
        >Hmmm, wouldn't not making such important information public actually risk the lives of more people? "Saving human lives" is often quite far down the list of priorities for governments and international organizations, despite their claims.
  - freebuju 4y ago
    Probably conjecture since the first incidents of the disease, at least in UK, was transmitted sexually among gay males.
  - grapeskin 4y ago
    From the article itself: "Another puzzle is why almost all of the case clusters include men aged 20–50, many of whom are gay, bisexual and have sex with men (GBMSM)"
    - MisterSandman 4y ago
      MSM != Anal Sex.
      - grapeskin 4y ago
        In the same way pork ribs aren’t barbecue. But they’re very highly correlated.
grapeskin 4y ago
Covid was also initially stated to not be a concern because human to human transmission wasn’t thought to be possible, then it didn’t have aerosol transmission, then it became inevitable that basically everyone would get infected. I think it’ll take a couple weeks until we know whether this is an evolution that has airborne transmission or it’s just being spread through physical contact (and it fortunately seems to just be the latter). Until then it’s some researchers saying it won’t spread beyond a few cases and some people saying it’s the next plague.
- version_five 4y ago
  This is a known disease that has some pretty distinct clusters. No doubt people would love to draw covid analogies, and will try and use the recent pandemic to try and amplify their own importance, but without some compelling evidence it is absurd to read further into this
  - wowokay 4y ago
    - version_five 4y ago
      Your assertion is as speculative as making up that any kind of disease has mutated and has a new transmission mechanism. As I said, there would need to be actual evidence before this gets any serious consideration. Just imagining the possibility because we've recently had another diseaed spread doesn't count for anything.
    - XFrequentist 4y ago
      Huh? COVID-19 is caused by SARS-COV-2, which was entirely unknown at the outset. In contrast there are about 2k Monkeypox cases per year, still lots of unknowns but pandemic potential is near nil IMO.
    - thfuran 4y ago
      >the media gets to run with it like Covid it could become a pandemic. Are you trying to say that cnn spread covid?
FunnyBadger 4y ago

lalaland1125 4y ago

busymom0 4y ago
Is this a serious comment or troll? Is it true that it's spreading via anal sex?
- tauchunfall 4y ago
  Yes, UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) and Robert Koch Institut (RKI) wrote this. RKI was criticised in German media it could lead to stigmatisation of homosexuals and africans.
  - busymom0 4y ago
    > RKI was criticised in German media it could lead to stigmatisation of homosexuals and africans. Hmmm, wouldn't not making such important information public actually risk the lives of more people? I think more information is always good than less information. Plus straight people also engage in anal sex so it's not really exclusive.
    - true_religion 4y ago
      They are glossing over it with nice language but “stigmatization” puts lives at risk. People don’t merely shun others, they get irritable and often attack those they consider “unclean”. This is something to consider seriously as the rise of right wing nationalist groups means the violence will be organized rather than random pogroms carried out by mobs.
      - bavell 4y ago
        Yeah better to put people's lives at risk by depriving them of information in order to potentially avoid stigmatizing someone else, right? Something something right wing violence. My eyes are rolling out of my head.
        aaomidi 4y ago
        Considering what we did with the AIDS epidemic, it's justified to wait until you've got all your facts in order.
        mensetmanusman 4y ago
        The response to aids is still a disaster, it kills 1 million per year globally…
        aaomidi 4y ago
        Yes it is. We're in another pandemic that we're effectively ignoring.
    - StanislavPetrov 4y ago
      >Hmmm, wouldn't not making such important information public actually risk the lives of more people? "Saving human lives" is often quite far down the list of priorities for governments and international organizations, despite their claims.
- freebuju 4y ago
  Probably conjecture since the first incidents of the disease, at least in UK, was transmitted sexually among gay males.
- grapeskin 4y ago
  From the article itself: "Another puzzle is why almost all of the case clusters include men aged 20–50, many of whom are gay, bisexual and have sex with men (GBMSM)"
  - MisterSandman 4y ago
    MSM != Anal Sex.
    - grapeskin 4y ago
      In the same way pork ribs aren’t barbecue. But they’re very highly correlated.

grapeskin 4y ago

Covid was also initially stated to not be a concern because human to human transmission wasn’t thought to be possible, then it didn’t have aerosol transmission, then it became inevitable that basically everyone would get infected. I think it’ll take a couple weeks until we know whether this is an evolution that has airborne transmission or it’s just being spread through physical contact (and it fortunately seems to just be the latter). Until then it’s some researchers saying it won’t spread beyond a few cases and some people saying it’s the next plague.

version_five 4y ago
This is a known disease that has some pretty distinct clusters. No doubt people would love to draw covid analogies, and will try and use the recent pandemic to try and amplify their own importance, but without some compelling evidence it is absurd to read further into this
- wowokay 4y ago
  - version_five 4y ago
    Your assertion is as speculative as making up that any kind of disease has mutated and has a new transmission mechanism. As I said, there would need to be actual evidence before this gets any serious consideration. Just imagining the possibility because we've recently had another diseaed spread doesn't count for anything.
  - XFrequentist 4y ago
    Huh? COVID-19 is caused by SARS-COV-2, which was entirely unknown at the outset. In contrast there are about 2k Monkeypox cases per year, still lots of unknowns but pandemic potential is near nil IMO.
  - thfuran 4y ago
    >the media gets to run with it like Covid it could become a pandemic. Are you trying to say that cnn spread covid?

FunnyBadger 4y ago