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Monkeypox goes global: why scientists are on alert
- thallium205 4y agoWhen will a vaccine be available?
- msbarnett 4y agoA vaccine for it was first available somewhere between 1774 and 1796, depending on your view of the early events in its history.
- arisAlexis 4y agoRephrasing OP: when will a vaccine be available to the public given that WHO stockpile is 30million?
- epgui 4y agoIf you click on the title it brings you to a webpage that has the full article.
- perihelions 4y ago- "...and because it is related to the smallpox virus, there are already treatments and vaccines on hand for curbing its spread" - "As a precaution against bioterrorism, countries such as the United States maintain a supply of smallpox vaccines, as well as an antiviral treatment thought to be highly effective against the virus. The therapies probably wouldn’t be deployed on a large scale, though, McCollum says. Health-care workers would probably instead use a method called ‘ring vaccination’ to contain the spread of monkeypox: this would vaccinate the close contacts of people who have been infected with monkeypox to cut off any routes of transmission."
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- shrubble 4y agoSaracennia purpurea , the purple pitcher plant, extract/tincture taken every 4 to 6 hours may be good enough.
- ttul 4y agoActually might have a point: https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/rediscovered-native-american-remedy-kills-poxvirus/3003420.article https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/rediscovered-native-amer...
- ceejayoz 4y ago> Now, Jeffrey Langland at Arizona State University in Tempe, US, and colleagues have conducted in vitro experiments with the herbal extract and found it inhibits replication of the variola virus, the causative agent behind smallpox. https://xkcd.com/1217/ https://xkcd.com/1217/ "When you see a claim that a common drug or vitamin 'kills cancer cells in a petri dish', keep in mind: so does a handgun." Given that smallpox helped nearly wipe out the Native Americans, I'm doubly skeptical of "ancient Native American remedy for smallpox!" claims.
- nkozyra 4y agoFair to be skeptical, but "native Americans" represented a lot of people segregated by geography and culture. The idea that a small group of them might have found something useful, which is at least backed up by some historical medical anecdote, is not on its surface implausible.
- hprotagonist 4y agomid-october 2001
- dehrmann 4y agoIronically for you, the OG vaccine, the literal etymological root for the word "vaccine," is effective against it.
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- saguntum 4y agoThe CDC claims that the US Strategic National Stockpile holds enough smallpox vaccine to inoculate every person in the US: https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/bioterrorism-response-planning/public-health/vaccination-strategies.html https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/bioterrorism-response-planning/... > The Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) has stockpiled enough smallpox vaccine to vaccinate every person in the United States. In a smallpox emergency, the SNS will coordinate with the Medical Countermeasures (MCM) coordinator or the preparedness office in the state or territorial health department. The MCM coordinator will allocate vaccine to local areas, depending upon the circumstances of the emergency. How long that would take to roll out is anyone's guess, but I believe a vaccination campaign could rollout fairly quickly if the monkeypox outbreak turns out to be sufficiently contagious to warrant use of the reserve, assuming the reserve is effective against any possible mutations.
- tinus_hn 4y agoConsidering the smallpox vaccine is well known to carry significant risks of severe adverse effects or death and among large groups government trust is very low, I don’t believe it’ll be that easy to roll out.
- yarg 4y agohttps://www.health.gov.au/news/monkeypox-update-from-acting-cmo-dr-sonya-bennett https://www.health.gov.au/news/monkeypox-update-from-acting-... > Human-to-human transmission of monkeypox can occur through close contact with lesions on the skin, body fluids including respiratory droplets, and contaminated materials such as bedding. Transmission via respiratory droplets usually requires prolonged face-to-face contact.
- lalaland1125 4y agoAlso of note is that most transmission so far appears to have been through male on male sex > Another puzzle is why almost all of the case clusters include men aged 20–50, many of whom are gay, bisexual and have sex with men (GBMSM). That means it's probably less contagious if it requires anal sex to transmit.
- ruined 4y agoit's worth noting that gay men practice many kinds of interaction that aren't anal sex, and the article does not at all suggest that anal sex was the route of transmission.
- version_five 4y agoI'm happy to see this unflagged, this is a useful caveat and certainly appropriate to add to the discussion
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- xupybd 4y agoIt's a technical point on the transmission vector of a new disease. HN encourages discussion that fuels curiosity. I'm very curious about this outbreak, especially while we're in an existing pandemic.
- babyshake 4y agoHow contagious is it? Edit: Unlike SARS-CoV-2, which spreads through tiny air-borne droplets called aerosols, monkeypox is thought to spread from close contact with bodily fluids, such as saliva from coughing. That means a person with monkeypox is likely to infect far fewer close contacts than someone with SARS-CoV-2
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- busymom0 4y agoIs this a serious comment or troll? Is it true that it's spreading via anal sex?
- tauchunfall 4y agoYes, UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) and Robert Koch Institut (RKI) wrote this. RKI was criticised in German media it could lead to stigmatisation of homosexuals and africans.
- busymom0 4y ago> RKI was criticised in German media it could lead to stigmatisation of homosexuals and africans. Hmmm, wouldn't not making such important information public actually risk the lives of more people? I think more information is always good than less information. Plus straight people also engage in anal sex so it's not really exclusive.
- true_religion 4y agoThey are glossing over it with nice language but “stigmatization” puts lives at risk. People don’t merely shun others, they get irritable and often attack those they consider “unclean”. This is something to consider seriously as the rise of right wing nationalist groups means the violence will be organized rather than random pogroms carried out by mobs.
- mynameishere 4y agoI guess you could start at page 10 to see one simulated future https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI_Paper_BIO-TTX_Final.pdf https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI_Paper_BIO...
- ordinaryradical 4y agoThis is insanely eerie. Great find.
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- version_five 4y agoThe vaccine is hundreds of years old, there's no money in it
- e-dt 4y agoWhat do you mean by $currentThing? Certainly this is, indeed, a current thing. But so are most things in the news - it's named for it! (O, the ceaseless march of time.) I don't understand why it's necessary to call attention to the fact that the news is new.
- Izkata 4y ago> What do you mean by $currentThing? It's a reference to https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-support-the-current-thing https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-support-the-current-thing
- e-dt 4y agoAh. I don't really see how making fun of people who performatively support popular causes is relevant here, but I suppose memes move in mysterious ways. Perhaps it's assumed that because this may become relevant, actions against monkeypox will surely get performatively supported? But then, I'd say that pre-emptively aggressively opposing that is only going to make it more likely, not less, that this becomes some kind of a "culture war" issue that gets performative support. (As any teenager knows, an ostentatious roll of the eye at the other side only intensifies the argument.)
- tamaharbor 4y agoLooks like old people who have had the smallpox vaccine (weird scar on shoulder) should not have to worry.
- lilulo 4y ago"old people" really?
- justaj 4y agoWhy? Is the smallpox vaccine also effective against this particular monkeypox virus?
- tamaharbor 4y agoAccording to Wiki, “The smallpox vaccine can prevent infection with 85% effectiveness.”
- zackees 4y agoProbably yes. In the literature Small pox vaccination protects against monkey pox. And such DNA viruses are very stable. The interesting part is that you can get pretty much any vaccine except the small pox vaccine now. Figure that out. They’ll give a six month baby a hepatitis b vaccine in case it has… sex or shoots iv drugs? But vaccinating for the most deadly disease ever? Can’t do it. The rational is that there’s no need given small pox has been eradicated. Yet many of the pandemic scenarios specifically cite small/monkey pox as the disease vector precisely because it’s bad and no one is immune any more. The responsible thing would be to allow the vaccine to be taken voluntarily by adults. A certain section of the population would become immune and bring us much closer to herd immunity and either protect against an out break or very much slow it down.
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- version_five 4y agoThe cases are all based on close contact, there is not any new mechanism of spread from what has been reported.
- ggm 4y ago39 day old low karma account. Normally, I think "what the hell let's have this conversation" but RU/UA are in a hot war, and comments of this nature to speculation of war's widening effects need to be read in the context of active disinformation and destabilising behaviour online. Why would a low karma account be used to make this speculative statement?
- throw1230 4y agobit of ad hominem. They already gave sources, so anyone can take a look and make their call
- ggm 4y agoYes, absolutely acknowledge it's a bit ad-hommy. But, the question stands: "the Russians diddit" had to be seen in the context we're in. Remember, a shitload of buuut Chyna is washup of US domestic politics and not actually about Covid. Anyone can take a look and make the call is "do the research restated" btw. That's a Q call. Maybe that's ad hommy too? All getting very meta.
- Jerrrry 4y agowhataboutism is whataboutism. judge comments on their own standing merits. OP shouldn't have to tie together identities because you're too short sighted to "do you own research" and evaluate a comment without reverting to lame fucking dog whistles. "someone with a checkmark tell me how to feel about this talking point" - you
- drumhead 4y agoIt feels a bit like a re-run of AIDS in the Mid 80's, but luckily this time we do have a vaccine for it. It will be interesting to see how the growth of this virus compares with Covid and if epidemiologists can learn anything from it.
- russianGuy83829 4y agostrange that this panic coincides with the WHO treaty conference and vote, which starts tomorrow and would give WHO global surveillance capabilities and be mandatory for countries to implement
- no_time 4y ago>WHO global surveillance capabilities and be mandatory for countries to implement why didn't they take advantage of COVID in this way? Phone based contact tracing was optional in most of the world.
- hulitu 4y agoBecause a newcomer has to sell its vaccines. Although the other Smallpox vaccines are ok. https://www.wallstreet-online.de/nachricht/15489723-bavarian-nordic-surges-another-22-as-monkeypox-vaccine-could-be-game-changer-danske-says https://www.wallstreet-online.de/nachricht/15489723-bavarian...