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The State of Application Modernization, 2022

31 points by kiyanwang 4y ago

0des 4y ago
I read the article, but it kept giving me an ad rollup vibe, which Ive been seeing more lately. Anybody else?
marcosdumay 4y ago
Is there some bias on the Red Hat adoption on the US, or has the entire country really drank the cloud coolaid? Unique barriers: "no not see the value in modernizing"...
- 0des 4y ago
  Its a really good OS, and the quality of care is unsurpassed. I have yet to find an uninformed or unprepared support specialist. Their turnaround time is great, and they seem proactive in wanting things to work properly even if it means they hold your hand through things. They also handle volume licensing very well. Who else aimed for that concierge support segment of the market? Maybe Cygnus? SuSE? VA?
  - marcosdumay 4y ago
    Does that bias the public that hires them somehow?
    - 0des 4y ago
      Are you asking "does giving me good service make me more prone to continue the buy-sell relationship"? If so, yes.
      - marcosdumay 4y ago
        No, I'm not asking that.
  - janstice 4y ago
    Plus RH backports security patches to rubbish old things that enterprises like us end up with, like php from 2013 - large orgs end up with a million orphaned projects, that so long as they use RH versions of things on a RH machine plugged into the update service, run much more securely than many of the alternatives.
- hhh 4y ago
  Enterprise support is important for adoption in large orgs in the US. Nobody got fired for buying IBM. It takes champions and a lot of focus to get something like this started. You have to have a third party to provide support and expertise or build up the knowledge internally (and for these tools that’s often expensive.) It takes a lot to find good ways to start. Many companies I’ve worked with don't want to sign a contract to start experimenting with the tools to start building knowledge internally. This is how you end with managed platform offerings. This is also how you get one person championing the idea, and having the ability to ‘just try it’ without going through sales or contacting the company is great. This is how I originally started using Rancher and then Harvester. EKS Anywhere has a similar support model, and is also very attractive. The DoD has been doing great things in my opinion with Platform One, which has similar focus https://p1.dso.mil/ https://p1.dso.mil/

31 points by kiyanwang 4y ago

0des 4y ago

I read the article, but it kept giving me an ad rollup vibe, which Ive been seeing more lately. Anybody else?

Is there some bias on the Red Hat adoption on the US, or has the entire country really drank the cloud coolaid? Unique barriers: "no not see the value in modernizing"...

0des 4y ago
Its a really good OS, and the quality of care is unsurpassed. I have yet to find an uninformed or unprepared support specialist. Their turnaround time is great, and they seem proactive in wanting things to work properly even if it means they hold your hand through things. They also handle volume licensing very well. Who else aimed for that concierge support segment of the market? Maybe Cygnus? SuSE? VA?
- marcosdumay 4y ago
  Does that bias the public that hires them somehow?
  - 0des 4y ago
    Are you asking "does giving me good service make me more prone to continue the buy-sell relationship"? If so, yes.
    - marcosdumay 4y ago
      No, I'm not asking that.
- janstice 4y ago
  Plus RH backports security patches to rubbish old things that enterprises like us end up with, like php from 2013 - large orgs end up with a million orphaned projects, that so long as they use RH versions of things on a RH machine plugged into the update service, run much more securely than many of the alternatives.
hhh 4y ago
Enterprise support is important for adoption in large orgs in the US. Nobody got fired for buying IBM. It takes champions and a lot of focus to get something like this started. You have to have a third party to provide support and expertise or build up the knowledge internally (and for these tools that’s often expensive.) It takes a lot to find good ways to start. Many companies I’ve worked with don't want to sign a contract to start experimenting with the tools to start building knowledge internally. This is how you end with managed platform offerings. This is also how you get one person championing the idea, and having the ability to ‘just try it’ without going through sales or contacting the company is great. This is how I originally started using Rancher and then Harvester. EKS Anywhere has a similar support model, and is also very attractive. The DoD has been doing great things in my opinion with Platform One, which has similar focus https://p1.dso.mil/ https://p1.dso.mil/