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"Political attacks on me will escalate dramatically in coming months" https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1526961470562508802 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/statu

"Political attacks on me will escalate dramatically in coming months" https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1526961470562508802 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1526961470562508802 "In the past I voted Democrat, because they were (mostly) the kindness party. But they have become the party of division & hate, so I can no longer support them and will vote Republican. Now, watch their dirty tricks campaign against me unfold … " https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1526997132858822658 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1526997132858822658 Interesting strategy of trying to get ahead of this..

pstuart 4y ago
But what if the allegations are true? Is Elon beyond reproach?
- hellomyguys 4y ago
  I'm not implying they aren't true. Just pointing out Musk laying the groundwork to try and discredit whatever was coming.
  - pstuart 4y ago
    I deeply respect the achievements he's made but have lost any for him as a person.
    - wahnfrieden 4y ago
      Maybe you can find more respect for the contributions of his workers to those achievements, than he has as an anti-labor union buster employing illegal tactics
      - pstuart 4y ago
        That's not a problem. Obviously the success is only possible with the workers who actually make stuff happen. I'm not a Musk fanboy but I recognize the power of someone with great intelligence and vision and is willing to bully to make it happen. Case in point: there's 3 space companies run by billionaires, but only one of them is successful. I think it's his driving force that makes the difference. It doesn't make him a good person, but it's evident that it is effective. As with Jobs, I can respect his achievements and not respect him.
        systemvoltage 4y ago
        Bill Gates was also pretty unruly, especially the 90's towards the early corporate era of Microsoft. If allegations on Elon are true, it is unfortunate to have this stain on his rather remarkable vision for the future. We need more visionaries like Elon.
        mzs 4y ago
        "Reports of Bill Gates' alleged inappropriate relationships and sexual advances towards Microsoft employees…" https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/tech/microsoft-bill-gates-sexual-harassment-arjuna-capital/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/tech/microsoft-bill-gates-sex... "Melinda French Gates voiced concerns about her husband’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and a harassment claim against his money manager. He also had an affair with an employee." https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/16/business/bill-melinda-gates-divorce-epstein.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/16/business/bill-melinda-gat...
        pstuart 4y ago
        I was not a fan of Gates when MS was the 800 pound gorilla in tech. Embrace, extend, extinguish was deplorable. When he started on the Gates Foundation and became a philanthropist it helped reform him in my eyes. But the latest revelations have undone much of that.
        systemvoltage 4y ago
        I'm with you. Bill went from uncool to cool, back to uncool now.
  - robswc 4y ago
    He's been "laying the ground work" long before this happened, not at all the first time he's taken shots at "leftists." Insider says they contacted him 9am yesterday.
- purple_ferret 4y ago
  It states right in the article he was in contact with them, so he knew the piece was coming out before he made those claims.
  - perihelions 4y ago
    - "For those interested, we reached out to the principals for comment regarding this story at ~9 a.m. eastern yesterday (Wednesday May 18)." https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1527421611070177307 https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1527421611070177307
- mhh__ 4y ago
  Legally no (in general, if there was a settlement paid then presumably it's done already), practically probably yes - he's rich.
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robswc 4y ago
Does it say when Insider contacted Musk?
- slg 4y ago
  Two hours and change before Musk tweeted that.[1]. He could possibly be anymore transparent that his tweet was an attempt to preempt this story. [1] - https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1527421611070177307 https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1527421611070177307
  - robswc 4y ago
    Assuming he's innocent, what was a better course of action? I'd probably do the same thing. It may have been 2 hours before this story but he's been putting out "controversial" tweets for months. I also have someone else telling me they contacted him years ago, still waiting on that source but no idea what to believe at this point.
    - mzs 4y ago
      "All of the allegations are false."
      - robswc 4y ago
        https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527496917579612161 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527496917579612161 Looks like he has "denied" it on twitter. I agree he should have denied it to Business Insider _but_, without knowing what Business Insider actually asked to get that response, I'll refrain from judging the answer.
        RivieraKid 4y ago
        He didn't deny the NDA and settlement. SpaceX could easily make a a statement that it didn't happen.
        4y ago
rvz 4y ago
And so the news archeologists begin digging 'artefacts' about Musk: Submit to the current agenda or your skeletons will be dug up and shown to the world.
- MallocVoidstar 4y ago
  Both of the cited tweets were made after he was informed about the article. The journalist did not report this because of those tweets.
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  - cato_the_elder 4y ago
    Not because of that one particular tweet, but probably because he dared to say things which violated their narratives.
    - rvz 4y ago
      Yes, exactly. Hence the internet archaeologists digging up anything they don't like and that the mainstream media, doing what it does best with their smearing.
codefreeordie 4y ago
How sure are you that this isn't one of said attacks? This story (and the degree to which it is being artificially pushed, including by being posted on HN every 3 minutes to make sure it gets seen) is well within the range of usual "dirty tricks" attacks that come out whenever someone publicly sets themselves against the democratic party.
- thereare5lights 4y ago
  > How sure are you that this isn't one of said attacks? I'd bet up to $1000 that it's true.
  - onesafari 4y ago
    I'd bet $1000 that it's another half true, half exaggerated "awkward nerd misreads woman and makes her uncomfortable" story.
    - BipolarCapybara 4y ago
      Yeah, how can you possibly misread someone so badly that you touch her without her permission and show her your penis?
      - emteycz 4y ago
        This is the guy who has promised a girl to show her "his rocket" and then went to a hotel room with her and proceeded to show her his rocket (his ex-wife told this story). I am not sure what really happened during this flight, but let's wait for the full story, and let's be a little accommodating if it turns out his Asperger's might be the actual issue here.
      - onesafari 4y ago
        That's literally heresay. We don't know what happened.
        4y ago
dfxm12 4y ago
It's disconcerting that a Republican considers this case of shedding light on sexual/power abuse a "political attack", but it's not surprising, given recent events.

pstuart 4y ago

But what if the allegations are true? Is Elon beyond reproach?

hellomyguys 4y ago
I'm not implying they aren't true. Just pointing out Musk laying the groundwork to try and discredit whatever was coming.
- pstuart 4y ago
  I deeply respect the achievements he's made but have lost any for him as a person.
  - wahnfrieden 4y ago
    Maybe you can find more respect for the contributions of his workers to those achievements, than he has as an anti-labor union buster employing illegal tactics
    - pstuart 4y ago
      That's not a problem. Obviously the success is only possible with the workers who actually make stuff happen. I'm not a Musk fanboy but I recognize the power of someone with great intelligence and vision and is willing to bully to make it happen. Case in point: there's 3 space companies run by billionaires, but only one of them is successful. I think it's his driving force that makes the difference. It doesn't make him a good person, but it's evident that it is effective. As with Jobs, I can respect his achievements and not respect him.
      - systemvoltage 4y ago
        Bill Gates was also pretty unruly, especially the 90's towards the early corporate era of Microsoft. If allegations on Elon are true, it is unfortunate to have this stain on his rather remarkable vision for the future. We need more visionaries like Elon.
        mzs 4y ago
        "Reports of Bill Gates' alleged inappropriate relationships and sexual advances towards Microsoft employees…" https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/tech/microsoft-bill-gates-sexual-harassment-arjuna-capital/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/tech/microsoft-bill-gates-sex... "Melinda French Gates voiced concerns about her husband’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and a harassment claim against his money manager. He also had an affair with an employee." https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/16/business/bill-melinda-gates-divorce-epstein.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/16/business/bill-melinda-gat...
        pstuart 4y ago
        I was not a fan of Gates when MS was the 800 pound gorilla in tech. Embrace, extend, extinguish was deplorable. When he started on the Gates Foundation and became a philanthropist it helped reform him in my eyes. But the latest revelations have undone much of that.
        systemvoltage 4y ago
        I'm with you. Bill went from uncool to cool, back to uncool now.
- robswc 4y ago
  He's been "laying the ground work" long before this happened, not at all the first time he's taken shots at "leftists." Insider says they contacted him 9am yesterday.
purple_ferret 4y ago
It states right in the article he was in contact with them, so he knew the piece was coming out before he made those claims.
- perihelions 4y ago
  - "For those interested, we reached out to the principals for comment regarding this story at ~9 a.m. eastern yesterday (Wednesday May 18)." https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1527421611070177307 https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1527421611070177307
mhh__ 4y ago
Legally no (in general, if there was a settlement paid then presumably it's done already), practically probably yes - he's rich.

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robswc 4y ago

Does it say when Insider contacted Musk?

slg 4y ago
Two hours and change before Musk tweeted that.[1]. He could possibly be anymore transparent that his tweet was an attempt to preempt this story. [1] - https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1527421611070177307 https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1527421611070177307
- robswc 4y ago
  Assuming he's innocent, what was a better course of action? I'd probably do the same thing. It may have been 2 hours before this story but he's been putting out "controversial" tweets for months. I also have someone else telling me they contacted him years ago, still waiting on that source but no idea what to believe at this point.
  - mzs 4y ago
    "All of the allegations are false."
    - robswc 4y ago
      https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527496917579612161 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527496917579612161 Looks like he has "denied" it on twitter. I agree he should have denied it to Business Insider _but_, without knowing what Business Insider actually asked to get that response, I'll refrain from judging the answer.
      - RivieraKid 4y ago
        He didn't deny the NDA and settlement. SpaceX could easily make a a statement that it didn't happen.
        4y ago

rvz 4y ago

And so the news archeologists begin digging 'artefacts' about Musk: Submit to the current agenda or your skeletons will be dug up and shown to the world.

MallocVoidstar 4y ago
Both of the cited tweets were made after he was informed about the article. The journalist did not report this because of those tweets.
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- cato_the_elder 4y ago
  Not because of that one particular tweet, but probably because he dared to say things which violated their narratives.
  - rvz 4y ago
    Yes, exactly. Hence the internet archaeologists digging up anything they don't like and that the mainstream media, doing what it does best with their smearing.

codefreeordie 4y ago

How sure are you that this isn't one of said attacks? This story (and the degree to which it is being artificially pushed, including by being posted on HN every 3 minutes to make sure it gets seen) is well within the range of usual "dirty tricks" attacks that come out whenever someone publicly sets themselves against the democratic party.

thereare5lights 4y ago
> How sure are you that this isn't one of said attacks? I'd bet up to $1000 that it's true.
- onesafari 4y ago
  I'd bet $1000 that it's another half true, half exaggerated "awkward nerd misreads woman and makes her uncomfortable" story.
  - BipolarCapybara 4y ago
    Yeah, how can you possibly misread someone so badly that you touch her without her permission and show her your penis?
    - emteycz 4y ago
      This is the guy who has promised a girl to show her "his rocket" and then went to a hotel room with her and proceeded to show her his rocket (his ex-wife told this story). I am not sure what really happened during this flight, but let's wait for the full story, and let's be a little accommodating if it turns out his Asperger's might be the actual issue here.
    - onesafari 4y ago
      That's literally heresay. We don't know what happened.
      - 4y ago

dfxm12 4y ago

It's disconcerting that a Republican considers this case of shedding light on sexual/power abuse a "political attack", but it's not surprising, given recent events.