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>1. Stop using so much corn to make ethanol. >2. Stop using so much seed oil to make biodiesel. Easier said than done when there's a global fuel shortage too!

Scoundreller 4y ago
Depends on how much energy you put into producing those vs. what else you could have done.
einpoklum 4y ago
So, 5. Stop using private vehicles so much in favor of public transport + bicycles. Et voila, no more fuel shortage. ... of course, this is even more easier-said-than-done for the US :-(
- LordDragonfang 4y ago
  Ironically, favoring public transport (which includes a good deal of walking) and bicycling is negatively impacted by the global calorie shortage, bringing us full circle.
  - tjr225 4y ago
    Idk man I could lose 80 pounds. I’m optimistic.
    - selectodude 4y ago
      Heh if you include the spare tire around most American men, we could do with a few years of calorie shortage.
  - yissp 4y ago
    I would think feeding corn to a human is more energy-efficient than turning it into biofuel and burning that in an engine, although now I'm curious exactly how the two compare.
- optimiz3 4y ago
  Enclosed spaces with the general public in a still ongoing pandemic? Also: "In a recent survey, 99% of respondents felt everyone else should use public transit"
  - einpoklum 4y ago
    > Enclosed spaces with the general public in a still ongoing pandemic? I'll concede that there's a point there. However - the world states with the best covid "performance" in terms of deaths/capita etc. have much better developed and widely used public transport systems.
harambae 4y ago
It would be partially offset by the higher fuel economy you'd get without ethanol in fuel. "Ethanol contains about one-third less energy than gasoline. So, vehicles will typically go 3% to 4% fewer miles per gallon on E10 and 4% to 5% fewer on E15 than on 100% gasoline." [0] I think Ethanol in gas is stupid and I always tank up with E0 when I can (it's available in some parts of New Hampshire... not sure about your state). [0] https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/ethanol.shtml https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/ethanol.shtml

Scoundreller 4y ago

Depends on how much energy you put into producing those vs. what else you could have done.

einpoklum 4y ago

So, 5. Stop using private vehicles so much in favor of public transport + bicycles. Et voila, no more fuel shortage. ... of course, this is even more easier-said-than-done for the US :-(

LordDragonfang 4y ago
Ironically, favoring public transport (which includes a good deal of walking) and bicycling is negatively impacted by the global calorie shortage, bringing us full circle.
- tjr225 4y ago
  Idk man I could lose 80 pounds. I’m optimistic.
  - selectodude 4y ago
    Heh if you include the spare tire around most American men, we could do with a few years of calorie shortage.
- yissp 4y ago
  I would think feeding corn to a human is more energy-efficient than turning it into biofuel and burning that in an engine, although now I'm curious exactly how the two compare.
optimiz3 4y ago
Enclosed spaces with the general public in a still ongoing pandemic? Also: "In a recent survey, 99% of respondents felt everyone else should use public transit"
- einpoklum 4y ago
  > Enclosed spaces with the general public in a still ongoing pandemic? I'll concede that there's a point there. However - the world states with the best covid "performance" in terms of deaths/capita etc. have much better developed and widely used public transport systems.

harambae 4y ago

It would be partially offset by the higher fuel economy you'd get without ethanol in fuel. "Ethanol contains about one-third less energy than gasoline. So, vehicles will typically go 3% to 4% fewer miles per gallon on E10 and 4% to 5% fewer on E15 than on 100% gasoline." [0] I think Ethanol in gas is stupid and I always tank up with E0 when I can (it's available in some parts of New Hampshire... not sure about your state). [0] https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/ethanol.shtml https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/ethanol.shtml