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EU is working on new regulation to fight this kind of things: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Markets_Act https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Mark

• Nicksil 4y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Markets_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Markets_Act
  • teddyh 4y ago
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• dan-robertson 4y ago
  How would this regulation help in this specific case? I find I sympathise a lot with both narratives about app stores: it does seem that big mistakes are made and sometimes it seems apps are removed anti competitively but it also seems that there are a lot of apps that are basically malware already and forcing app stores to remove fewer apps would lead to more of it.
  • krageon 4y ago
    Google makes boatloads of money, but somehow they cannot seem to implement a good people-focused review system for whether or not apps are malicious. "But that doesn't scale", I hear you say. They could simply hire more people, that scales fine. It's quite simply that Google has never been a people company and the culture has never shifted from engineering first to people first. It is a shame, because this leads to an ever more shitty experience for the humans using their stuff.
    • dragonwriter 4y ago
      > Google makes boatloads of money Because they have businesses that scale: dominated by fixed costs with very small unit costs, where twice as many units have very much less than twice as much total cost to deliver. > "But that doesn't scale", I hear you say. They could simply hire more people, that scales fine. No, it doesn't. Hiring more people with any given skill set has superlinear costs very quickly (because of supervision heirarchies and increased quantity even before that increasing the clearing price). Cost scaling worse than linearly is pretty much what people mean when they say, “Doesn’t scale".
      • scarface74 4y ago
        Yet Apple seems to be able to do it…
      • Swenrekcah 4y ago
        If a product is too big for an entity to maintain, then that entity needs to scale back their product.
      • notreallyserio 4y ago
        How does Apple manage to have human reviewers and engineers you can talk with on the phone about App Store issues? It seems like it scales just fine for them.
        • lapcat 4y ago
          > How does Apple manage to have human reviewers and engineers you can talk with on the phone about App Store issues? You can't talk to reviewers on the phone.
          • notreallyserio 4y ago
            They certainly offer the option.
            • lapcat 4y ago
  • g_p 4y ago
    The legislation needed here for this specific case is arguably already in force - https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:32019R1150 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:32... The developer in question is based in Europe. The problem is that an inherent imbalance in scale means you have no effective or proportionate recourse when Google break this law. This legislation requires meaningful human interaction with developers, but as many in this thread have observed, developers can't access a human, only automated processes. That would be costly for Google and wouldn't easily scale, so clearly they don't choose to follow this law. Trouble is that laws are meaningless without enforcement, and someone to advance that enforcement on behalf of the smaller party.
  • alaricus 4y ago
    This is exactly where you need regulation. EU can force Google to to create sane policies for removal, or even fine Google when they do stuff like this.