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Every time innocent people are killed by a psychopath, everything should get a very hard and sharp "probe"... In hopes of discouraging the shockingly cowardly b

Every time innocent people are killed by a psychopath, everything should get a very hard and sharp "probe"... In hopes of discouraging the shockingly cowardly behavior. Especially the killer(s). There were numerous reports and investigations and even a documentary on the beltway snipers. We shouldn't ask why one incident gets more scrutiny compared to another.

blockwriter 4y ago
I thought we had come to the understanding that “probing” the killer, I.e. giving them, and not the victims, a lot of press, naming them, publishing their image, their ideas, etc. only encouraged other would be mass murderers.
car_analogy 4y ago
> There were numerous reports and investigations and even a documentary on the beltway snipers. Yes, on the snipers themselves. Aside from a gun-control related lawsuit, there was no spillover of negative attention to everyone remotely associated with the snipers' ideology or motives. Oh, there was a Law & Order episode based on this massacre. But they took some artistic liberty with the perpetrators: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0629419/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0629419/
chii 4y ago
> We shouldn't ask why one incident gets more scrutiny compared to another. why not? If the incidents had similar death counts and other neutral metrics, they ought to be similarly treated. The problem with selective scrutiny is that it enables discriminatory, tactical politicalization of an event. If society is to move towards equality and equal treatment of all, remove racism and biases, it has to treat all events with equal importance. In a similar vein, the johnny depp and amber heard suit has revealed that domestic violence is just as much a problem for men, but they are often not believed because society has assigned less importance to an event that otherwise should've been treated equally as the female counter-part.
- winternett 4y ago
  The cases are different by circumstance and factors. That is why we have the judicial system, which is meant to evaluate details and determine circumstances. If outcomes are not fair for one case or another, which happens all the time, it should be traced back to accountability of involved parties on an individual basis. Trying to create an inaccurate equivalence between two completely different instances of mass shooting events as a meter or proof of racial inequity does nothing useful and means nothing productive as a discussion. You'd need a lot more data than that. It's also not the key point to what I was posting about. Johnny Depp and Amber Herd doesn't even register to me right now, there are far more serious issues affecting all of us, and they're wealthy and grown adults that don't need us or even the media involved in their personal issues in my opinion.

blockwriter 4y ago

I thought we had come to the understanding that “probing” the killer, I.e. giving them, and not the victims, a lot of press, naming them, publishing their image, their ideas, etc. only encouraged other would be mass murderers.

car_analogy 4y ago

> There were numerous reports and investigations and even a documentary on the beltway snipers. Yes, on the snipers themselves. Aside from a gun-control related lawsuit, there was no spillover of negative attention to everyone remotely associated with the snipers' ideology or motives. Oh, there was a Law & Order episode based on this massacre. But they took some artistic liberty with the perpetrators: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0629419/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0629419/

chii 4y ago

> We shouldn't ask why one incident gets more scrutiny compared to another. why not? If the incidents had similar death counts and other neutral metrics, they ought to be similarly treated. The problem with selective scrutiny is that it enables discriminatory, tactical politicalization of an event. If society is to move towards equality and equal treatment of all, remove racism and biases, it has to treat all events with equal importance. In a similar vein, the johnny depp and amber heard suit has revealed that domestic violence is just as much a problem for men, but they are often not believed because society has assigned less importance to an event that otherwise should've been treated equally as the female counter-part.

winternett 4y ago
The cases are different by circumstance and factors. That is why we have the judicial system, which is meant to evaluate details and determine circumstances. If outcomes are not fair for one case or another, which happens all the time, it should be traced back to accountability of involved parties on an individual basis. Trying to create an inaccurate equivalence between two completely different instances of mass shooting events as a meter or proof of racial inequity does nothing useful and means nothing productive as a discussion. You'd need a lot more data than that. It's also not the key point to what I was posting about. Johnny Depp and Amber Herd doesn't even register to me right now, there are far more serious issues affecting all of us, and they're wealthy and grown adults that don't need us or even the media involved in their personal issues in my opinion.