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Twitter client partner says the company focuses on ideology over profit in video

16 points by verisimi 4y ago

nus07 4y ago
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- slater 4y ago
  Doesn't seem to be at the top of HN; it was just posted, so maybe you were seeing at the top of /new ? And doing some digging, trying to find more about "reclaimthenet.org" just brings up posts by others wondering the same. They appear to be entry #91598123812 in a long list of conservative/libertarian "we're the real victims, here!" "news" websites, featuring the usual "And just why SHOULDN'T i be allowed to shout fire in a crowded theater??" misunderstandings of freedom of speech, sprinkled with some ostensibly fair "google tracks you!" articles
  - nus07 4y ago
    Sorry my bad . I did not realize it was sorted by /new.
- rvz 4y ago
  None of what you said is a full debunking of the evidence mentioned in the article or even the leaks that PV has released about Twitter; starting with the Twitter all hands video which none of the videos still haven't been directly debunked or refuted. At best, your comment is mixture of quick deflections, starting with a typical ad-hominen which is even irrelevant, followed by an outright denial of what was presented in the video and an attempt to escape and dismiss the post as a 'rumor' after the release of the leaks with a direct confession recorded on video. So can you show me a full debunking of both, if not all the evidence presented by PV about Twitter starting with the all hands video leak, assuming you have watched all the video leaks?
- arrakis2021 4y ago
  1. Their political leaning isn’t relevant. Are you saying you will only take this seriously if it’s posted by an overtly left leaning outlet? 2. This is a senior engineer. Do their comments about internal practices not matter at all? 3. Where is the rumor? It’s a video. Is this a deepfake we are watching? Are we hallucinating?
  - throwaway5752 4y ago
    It is probably related more to the long and well documented history fraud and other crimes that Project Veritas has committed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas#Incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas#Incidents The founder should have served hard time for the Mary Landrieu incident alone.
    - mhoad 4y ago
      I’m not sure why you’re getting downvoted, that is very literally their entire focus to chop and selectively edit things to remove all context and repackage them in the most partisan format possible and has been since the start. It’s such a fundamental thing that it’s literally one of the first things we tell children about through fairytales like the boy who cried wolf.
    - scohesc 4y ago
      Hardly - putting someone in jail for going into a federal building under false pretenses? That's pretty darn close to just trespassing to me. I feel I have no strong biases one way or the other - I've only just heard of this media outlet, but from the list of incidents it looks like they're just doing _actual_ investigative journalism and digging for answers instead of just copy-pasting from AP Newswire and adding a politically preferred spin to it like other outlets.
      - mhoad 4y ago
        Allow me to copy and paste the opening paragraph of their Wikipedia page: Project Veritas is an American far-right activist group founded by James O'Keefe in 2010. The group produces deceptively edited videos of its undercover operations, which use secret recordings in an effort to discredit mainstream media organizations and progressive groups. Project Veritas also uses entrapment to generate bad publicity for its targets, and has propagated disinformation and conspiracy theories in its videos and operations. Where you got “_actual_ investigative journalism and digging for answers” from that is beyond me and is something to probably reflect on if you’re being serious and not just shitposting.
AustinDev 4y ago
My favorite part was the senior engineer that said he worked like 4hr/week in Q1 probably a bit of hyperbole but knowing a few people that do work there I'd believe it. Working at Twitter sounds like a great deal.
kar5pt 4y ago
Is a company putting their ethical principles over profit necessarily a bad thing?

16 points by verisimi 4y ago

nus07 4y ago

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slater 4y ago
Doesn't seem to be at the top of HN; it was just posted, so maybe you were seeing at the top of /new ? And doing some digging, trying to find more about "reclaimthenet.org" just brings up posts by others wondering the same. They appear to be entry #91598123812 in a long list of conservative/libertarian "we're the real victims, here!" "news" websites, featuring the usual "And just why SHOULDN'T i be allowed to shout fire in a crowded theater??" misunderstandings of freedom of speech, sprinkled with some ostensibly fair "google tracks you!" articles
- nus07 4y ago
  Sorry my bad . I did not realize it was sorted by /new.
rvz 4y ago
None of what you said is a full debunking of the evidence mentioned in the article or even the leaks that PV has released about Twitter; starting with the Twitter all hands video which none of the videos still haven't been directly debunked or refuted. At best, your comment is mixture of quick deflections, starting with a typical ad-hominen which is even irrelevant, followed by an outright denial of what was presented in the video and an attempt to escape and dismiss the post as a 'rumor' after the release of the leaks with a direct confession recorded on video. So can you show me a full debunking of both, if not all the evidence presented by PV about Twitter starting with the all hands video leak, assuming you have watched all the video leaks?
arrakis2021 4y ago
1. Their political leaning isn’t relevant. Are you saying you will only take this seriously if it’s posted by an overtly left leaning outlet? 2. This is a senior engineer. Do their comments about internal practices not matter at all? 3. Where is the rumor? It’s a video. Is this a deepfake we are watching? Are we hallucinating?
- throwaway5752 4y ago
  It is probably related more to the long and well documented history fraud and other crimes that Project Veritas has committed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas#Incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas#Incidents The founder should have served hard time for the Mary Landrieu incident alone.
  - mhoad 4y ago
    I’m not sure why you’re getting downvoted, that is very literally their entire focus to chop and selectively edit things to remove all context and repackage them in the most partisan format possible and has been since the start. It’s such a fundamental thing that it’s literally one of the first things we tell children about through fairytales like the boy who cried wolf.
  - scohesc 4y ago
    Hardly - putting someone in jail for going into a federal building under false pretenses? That's pretty darn close to just trespassing to me. I feel I have no strong biases one way or the other - I've only just heard of this media outlet, but from the list of incidents it looks like they're just doing _actual_ investigative journalism and digging for answers instead of just copy-pasting from AP Newswire and adding a politically preferred spin to it like other outlets.
    - mhoad 4y ago
      Allow me to copy and paste the opening paragraph of their Wikipedia page: Project Veritas is an American far-right activist group founded by James O'Keefe in 2010. The group produces deceptively edited videos of its undercover operations, which use secret recordings in an effort to discredit mainstream media organizations and progressive groups. Project Veritas also uses entrapment to generate bad publicity for its targets, and has propagated disinformation and conspiracy theories in its videos and operations. Where you got “_actual_ investigative journalism and digging for answers” from that is beyond me and is something to probably reflect on if you’re being serious and not just shitposting.

AustinDev 4y ago

My favorite part was the senior engineer that said he worked like 4hr/week in Q1 probably a bit of hyperbole but knowing a few people that do work there I'd believe it. Working at Twitter sounds like a great deal.

kar5pt 4y ago

Is a company putting their ethical principles over profit necessarily a bad thing?