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No Mention of Eclipse, Mr. Ex-Googler

1 points by LoveGracePeace 4y ago

LoveGracePeace 4y ago
Yeah that's right, Google and Jetbrains sittn' in a tree.
PaulHoule 4y ago
If Google is so great at developer experience why is it so much easier to get things done with AWS and Azure?
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- dekhn 4y ago
  Huh? Google's internal developer experience has little to do with the external APIs and UIs people use to access AWS and Azure (whose product equivalent would be Google Cloud Platform). I'm not sure why you think it's easier to do stuff with AWS or Azure; all three platforms support roughly the same baseline set of features and most other issues are matters of preference or arguably valid alternatives
  - PaulHoule 4y ago
    (1) Going back to the origin of AWS, AWS came out of internal infrastructure that AMZN developed for itself. So it is all about the dogfood. (2) When I was doing a shootout of 8 machine vision APIs, I got all the other ones working in less than 20 minutes. Google took 2 hours because installing the Python API trashed my Python installation (3) I hear similar stories from other devs who've attempt to do things with GCP. (4) There is another story about Google which is that they're not very productive internally, it takes them forever to develop features, they hire 150 IQ developers and get 115 IQ performance out of them because they waste 35 points of cognitive capacity on bad tools. They think it's OK because it proves they only hire the best.
    - dekhn 4y ago
      your #1 doesn't even make sense (for example, that point doesn't apply to Azure, but you're OK with azure? your #2 doesn't even make sense, provide a repro your #3: cool anecdote brow your #4: that's just ad hominem and weakens your argument.
WalterGR 4y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. Maybe try reddit?

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No Mention of Eclipse, Mr. Ex-Googler

1 points by LoveGracePeace 4y ago

LoveGracePeace 4y ago
Yeah that's right, Google and Jetbrains sittn' in a tree.
PaulHoule 4y ago
If Google is so great at developer experience why is it so much easier to get things done with AWS and Azure?
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- dekhn 4y ago
  Huh? Google's internal developer experience has little to do with the external APIs and UIs people use to access AWS and Azure (whose product equivalent would be Google Cloud Platform). I'm not sure why you think it's easier to do stuff with AWS or Azure; all three platforms support roughly the same baseline set of features and most other issues are matters of preference or arguably valid alternatives
  - PaulHoule 4y ago
    (1) Going back to the origin of AWS, AWS came out of internal infrastructure that AMZN developed for itself. So it is all about the dogfood. (2) When I was doing a shootout of 8 machine vision APIs, I got all the other ones working in less than 20 minutes. Google took 2 hours because installing the Python API trashed my Python installation (3) I hear similar stories from other devs who've attempt to do things with GCP. (4) There is another story about Google which is that they're not very productive internally, it takes them forever to develop features, they hire 150 IQ developers and get 115 IQ performance out of them because they waste 35 points of cognitive capacity on bad tools. They think it's OK because it proves they only hire the best.
    - dekhn 4y ago
      your #1 doesn't even make sense (for example, that point doesn't apply to Azure, but you're OK with azure? your #2 doesn't even make sense, provide a repro your #3: cool anecdote brow your #4: that's just ad hominem and weakens your argument.
WalterGR 4y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. Maybe try reddit?