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This is terrifying. Why am I not seeing coverage of this elsewhere? US media is full of stories about inflation cooling. If this is true, this should be the big

This is terrifying. Why am I not seeing coverage of this elsewhere? US media is full of stories about inflation cooling. If this is true, this should be the biggest story everywhere.

codefreeordie 4y ago
The world was already producing less food this year even before the Ukraine/Russia war, which takes a ton of wheat-producing land out of service and has also greatly reduced the availability of chemical fertilizer, which will greatly reduce yields everywhere (including in the U.S., where there is a massive fertilizer shortage going on right now). There's also a massive energy shortage, partially due to the Ukraine/Russia war (again, it was going to be a little bit bad and then the war made it tragic), which makes every part of the food supply chain tighter as well.
jimmygrapes 4y ago
For context take a look at the more tech oriented threads where people making 6 digits USD are whining about having to go to the office or similar. Then compare to the threads about how bad "things" are. Then compare to the threads about how billionaires need to do their part. Seek the disconnects. Then recognize that it has always been this way.
Kon-Peki 4y ago
This is from less than a week ago [1] > “An awful lot of people in Africa are going to starve to death because they [Ukraine] are the sole, sole supplier,” Biden said, switching between prepared and off-the-cuff remarks inside the stiflingly hot warehouse. “Putin has warships bouncing around, preventing access to the Ukrainian ports to get this grain out, to get this wheat out.” > Biden touted White House efforts that he says will help OC Farm — a sixth-generation family farm that produces soybeans, corn and wheat — and others across the nation boost production, including by offering expanding insurance to farmers encouraging them to produce two crops in the upcoming season. If you can, grow a garden this year (and the next, and the next). [1] https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/5/11/23067489/president-biden-chicago-kankakee-illinois-visit-putin-ukraine-pritzker-ibew-mccormick-inflation https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/5/11/23067489/president-bi...
- antifa 4y ago
  > If you can, grow a garden this year What crops are optimal for a small personal garden in the US?
  - moeris 4y ago
    Depends on your goals. If you are just looking for calories, you probably can't beat potatoes. You can grow 100lbs of potatoes in a 4ft x 4ft plot. Maybe even more than that. If you're looking at maximizing nutritional value, sweet potatoes might be a good bet. You eat the leaves and the tubers. Similarly to potatoes, you can grow a large quantity in a small area. If you're looking for luxury items that may be hard to find in a shortage, then you have a lot of options. Though they might take more or less skill depending on the crop and climate. (Like artichokes).
  - adgjlsfhk1 4y ago
    if you're starting a garden,I highly recommend a tomato plant. store bought tomatoes are incredibly bland in comparison.
    - moistly 4y ago
      And seek out heirloom varieties. They might be ugly but the taste is beyond compare.
  - Kon-Peki 4y ago
    I'm somewhat new to gardening, but I have had pretty good luck over the last year or two saving seeds from veggies I buy at the store and then planting. Peppers (bell and hot), cantaloupe, pumpkin, etc. I went to a class about saving seeds and that worked out, though I've found that saving tomato seeds is even harder than people say it is. I've planted some berries in the hopes of having some perennial fruit, and they are doing really well this spring! It's too late to plant spring wheat, but I will be planning ahead for September-ish and getting a winter wheat "crop" in. I am thinking that this weekend I will try to plant some sweet corn - perhaps a single seed packet if I can still find one at a garden shop. My approach has been to try something, learn, get better. That's the best advice I can give.
xrd 4y ago
Because it is hyperbole. Will this affect US wheat prices? Yes, because they are priced on the global market. Will it mean citizens of the US will not have enough wheat to eat? No, generally it won't, because the US doesn't import wheat at all. https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-is-raising-grain-prices-grocery-costs-could-go-up/65-9b211493-7818-4d04-ac63-dd79d4616ce2 https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/the-russian-invasi... Pay attention to the articles, many of them confuse global supply with exports, as if all countries need to import everything they consume. That's not true. These fluctuations will affect people and prices but the reporting is often hyperbolic and incorrect.
- codefreeordie 4y ago
  I was including the US among the rich countries where people won't starve, but will instead merely pay more and possibly have less choice available that they can afford. It will be in the places where people already live close to the edge where true hunger will emerge.
  - xrd 4y ago
    That's a good point. I'm curious if those countries which aren't overwhelmed by globalization and still produce locally will be alright. As I read the articles about where wheat importing is happening, like Indonesia, China, Japan, Vietnam, I wonder if those shortages will only affect the upper class who are buying those Western goods, while people who still use rice as their main staple will be ok. I'm not sure.
- nradov 4y ago
  The US doesn't even consume that much wheat, under 300 g per person per day. But the same inflationary factors will also impact other staple crops, as well as animal feed.
- nsotelo 4y ago
  It's not important because it won't affect the US?

This is terrifying. Why am I not seeing coverage of this elsewhere? US media is full of stories about inflation cooling. If this is true, this should be the biggest story everywhere.

codefreeordie 4y ago

The world was already producing less food this year even before the Ukraine/Russia war, which takes a ton of wheat-producing land out of service and has also greatly reduced the availability of chemical fertilizer, which will greatly reduce yields everywhere (including in the U.S., where there is a massive fertilizer shortage going on right now). There's also a massive energy shortage, partially due to the Ukraine/Russia war (again, it was going to be a little bit bad and then the war made it tragic), which makes every part of the food supply chain tighter as well.

jimmygrapes 4y ago

For context take a look at the more tech oriented threads where people making 6 digits USD are whining about having to go to the office or similar. Then compare to the threads about how bad "things" are. Then compare to the threads about how billionaires need to do their part. Seek the disconnects. Then recognize that it has always been this way.

Kon-Peki 4y ago

This is from less than a week ago [1] > “An awful lot of people in Africa are going to starve to death because they [Ukraine] are the sole, sole supplier,” Biden said, switching between prepared and off-the-cuff remarks inside the stiflingly hot warehouse. “Putin has warships bouncing around, preventing access to the Ukrainian ports to get this grain out, to get this wheat out.” > Biden touted White House efforts that he says will help OC Farm — a sixth-generation family farm that produces soybeans, corn and wheat — and others across the nation boost production, including by offering expanding insurance to farmers encouraging them to produce two crops in the upcoming season. If you can, grow a garden this year (and the next, and the next). [1] https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/5/11/23067489/president-biden-chicago-kankakee-illinois-visit-putin-ukraine-pritzker-ibew-mccormick-inflation https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/5/11/23067489/president-bi...

antifa 4y ago
> If you can, grow a garden this year What crops are optimal for a small personal garden in the US?
- moeris 4y ago
  Depends on your goals. If you are just looking for calories, you probably can't beat potatoes. You can grow 100lbs of potatoes in a 4ft x 4ft plot. Maybe even more than that. If you're looking at maximizing nutritional value, sweet potatoes might be a good bet. You eat the leaves and the tubers. Similarly to potatoes, you can grow a large quantity in a small area. If you're looking for luxury items that may be hard to find in a shortage, then you have a lot of options. Though they might take more or less skill depending on the crop and climate. (Like artichokes).
- adgjlsfhk1 4y ago
  if you're starting a garden,I highly recommend a tomato plant. store bought tomatoes are incredibly bland in comparison.
  - moistly 4y ago
    And seek out heirloom varieties. They might be ugly but the taste is beyond compare.
- Kon-Peki 4y ago
  I'm somewhat new to gardening, but I have had pretty good luck over the last year or two saving seeds from veggies I buy at the store and then planting. Peppers (bell and hot), cantaloupe, pumpkin, etc. I went to a class about saving seeds and that worked out, though I've found that saving tomato seeds is even harder than people say it is. I've planted some berries in the hopes of having some perennial fruit, and they are doing really well this spring! It's too late to plant spring wheat, but I will be planning ahead for September-ish and getting a winter wheat "crop" in. I am thinking that this weekend I will try to plant some sweet corn - perhaps a single seed packet if I can still find one at a garden shop. My approach has been to try something, learn, get better. That's the best advice I can give.

xrd 4y ago

Because it is hyperbole. Will this affect US wheat prices? Yes, because they are priced on the global market. Will it mean citizens of the US will not have enough wheat to eat? No, generally it won't, because the US doesn't import wheat at all. https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-is-raising-grain-prices-grocery-costs-could-go-up/65-9b211493-7818-4d04-ac63-dd79d4616ce2 https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/the-russian-invasi... Pay attention to the articles, many of them confuse global supply with exports, as if all countries need to import everything they consume. That's not true. These fluctuations will affect people and prices but the reporting is often hyperbolic and incorrect.

codefreeordie 4y ago
I was including the US among the rich countries where people won't starve, but will instead merely pay more and possibly have less choice available that they can afford. It will be in the places where people already live close to the edge where true hunger will emerge.
- xrd 4y ago
  That's a good point. I'm curious if those countries which aren't overwhelmed by globalization and still produce locally will be alright. As I read the articles about where wheat importing is happening, like Indonesia, China, Japan, Vietnam, I wonder if those shortages will only affect the upper class who are buying those Western goods, while people who still use rice as their main staple will be ok. I'm not sure.
nradov 4y ago
The US doesn't even consume that much wheat, under 300 g per person per day. But the same inflationary factors will also impact other staple crops, as well as animal feed.
nsotelo 4y ago
It's not important because it won't affect the US?