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VoCore – Coin-Sized Linux Computer
- franga2000 4y agoThis is really cool and I really want one, even though I have no use for it
- wiz21c 4y agoReminds me of my 3 RaspberryPI's :-)
- vardump 4y ago12 here... sigh. Then again, all of them have had a good amount of use over the years. But 10 of them (RPi 1B-3B+) are no longer in use. Tempted to buy a VoCore, but I won't. It'd most probably just join the Raspberry Pis in a drawer.
- jesuslop 4y agoWhat mean duration have you seen?
- vardump 4y agoNone of them have ever broken. Otherwise I've used them up until the next model is released. 1B, 2B, 3B, 3B+ and now 4B. Plus one zero.
- cure 4y agoYou could probably donate or sell the older Raspberry Pis...
- 8fingerlouie 4y agoI have a drawer where old SBC's go to die :) It's right next to my arduino/micropython boards. Years ago i ran quite a lot of stuff on a Raspberry Pi, but despite them growing more and more capable, my computing needs at home have gotten less and less. I ran a homebuilt surveillance system on them for some years, RPi Zeros for the nodes with motion detection, and a NAS as a storage target and object detection, but i eventually replaced it with UniFi Protect and HomeKit Secure Video. A couple of years ago i still had a couple running AdguardHome, but after that got replaced by NextDNS, i have only one left, running "power monitoring" and HomeBridge in my summerhouse.
- DocTomoe 4y ago> but despite them growing more and more capable, my computing needs at home have gotten less and less. And still, with my computing needs becoming more minimalistic, my RPi3B+ just doesn't deliver. I'm currently trying to make it run my emacs/cli-based workflow somewhat acceptable, but the darn thing can't even run a shell without noticeable lag. There is a noticeable delay between keyboard entry and things showing up every few seconds. Not cool.
- Syonyk 4y ago> But 10 of them (RPi 1B-3B+) are no longer in use. Sell them. There's basically no supply and very strong demand right now, because in addition to hobbyist uses, there are a lot of people who have built products that are based around Pis and who can't sell their products, because they can't get Pis. Go check eBay prices. 3Bs are selling for $70-$100. The 8GB 4s are selling for $150-$200. It's the best time to unload them you're ever likely to see for older hardware.
- Damogran6 4y agoRPi's are like lottery tickets. You buy them for the license to dream it gives you. They're potential.
- giraffe_lady 4y agoGot a genuine chuckle out of me. That really is how I feel about it. It didn't cost me anything significant, I never did anything of value with it, but I don't regret buying it. Exact same way I feel about the handful of lottery tickets I've bought over the years.
- imtringued 4y agoThat's how hype works. The amusing part is that you can be hyped up for something that you already have. There was a game I played on PS2 and NDS and then it got ported to PC and I was hyped for it and enjoyed it as if I played it for the first time.
- catern 4y agoThey're really just a sign of how weak general purpose computing has become. Almost all uses of Raspberry Pis for hobbyist projects could and should be done just as well with the computers that you already own and already have running.
- _joel 4y agoNot sure my main PC can run at 2 Amps..
- mciancia 4y agoWell, seeing that most desktop PCs are running at 110V or 230V, I think it's quite easy to find something that will run under ~220W or ~460W ;]
- tambourine_man 4y agoParent probably meant 10W (5V x 2A)
- fullstop 4y agoI have three of them and they're all in use. The only ones not in use are the Pine64 (not well supported anymore) and a Jetson Nano. I've been tempted to use the Jetson Nano for something like OctoPrint, but it seems like that would be a waste of the GPU.
- mobilio 4y agoIt's OpenWRT powered!
- fmajid 4y agoI wish PoE were more common as an option to power these SBCs.
- salzig 4y agothere is a PoE-Hat addon available, at least. edit: just realized that you meant other projects.
- krkoch 4y agoPoE devices needs an isolation transformer in order to be compliant, and it takes quite some real estate. However, so does 110V/220V, but i guess we're so used to "hiding" it in a wall-wart.
- InitialLastName 4y agoSomething like [0] would basically cover your PoE adapter needs for this, right? Remember that these SBC's also don't directly cover using 120V AC mains power as an option; they rely on a wall wart for that. The trade-off to the gain in mechanical flexibility of having a very small size is that you have to put the big (in miniature electronics terms) inductors elsewhere. [0]https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Gigabit-Ethernet-Splitter-TL-PoE10R/dp/B003CFATQK/ https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Gigabit-Ethernet-Splitter-TL-...
- fmajid 4y agoYeah, I have PoE to USB-C splitters like this one: https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07TJ3ZNJ4/ https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07TJ3ZNJ4/ I used it to power a phone used as 5G backup to my Internet connection, combined with this Ethernet to USB-C with power passthrough adapter: https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B086SV2FK4/ https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B086SV2FK4/ Works, but way clunkier than a built-in solution.
- salzig 4y agoif it doesn't load: https://web.archive.org/web/20220513102852/https://vocore.io/ https://web.archive.org/web/20220513102852/https://vocore.io...
- nine_k 4y agoOh, what an idea: take some battle-tested router hardware, put it into the tiniest possible form factor, use the battle-tested router-oriented Linux distro. Instant win! This thing still allows you to wire 4 Ethernet ports, if you feel like it. But apparently these pins can be used somehow differently, too.
- oneplane 4y agoKeep in mind that tiny ~550 MHz, MIPS 24K core based boards have been around for a while, including OpenWRT support. They are not as powerful as one might like, and with performance lower than a Pi 1 (and a lack of accelerators), you might be better off getting more recent ARM based stamp-sized SBC for the same price. What is interesting about this one is that it has reasonable documentation for a change (but not about the MediaTek SoC) and they might actually be able to move volume on both their main device and extension boards.
- mkl 4y ago> you might be better off getting more recent ARM based stamp-sized SBC for the same price. Can you suggest any examples?
- rcoder 4y agoFriendlyElec has a range of boards under their NanoPi brand that might fit: https://www.friendlyelec.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=69 https://www.friendlyelec.com/index.php?route=product/categor... The NEO Air in particular is a very compact board using an Allwinner chip, which works pretty well under Linux including such niceties as support for the integrated power management chip. I also recently got a couple of the Space Cats Jeter Nano boards. They’re more on par with the VoCore, performance-wise, but with a lot of GPIOs on more hobbyist-friendly (read: breadboard-ready) connectors.
- nine_k 4y agoThe Nano Pi looks 5-6x as expensive, and quite noticeably larger and heavier. Much more powerful though.
- rcoder 4y agoI’m not sure which NanoPi you’re looking at; the Core Air is not quite 2x the price ($32 vs. $18) of the VoCore and only a bit wider/longer, and similarly thin. Also, as you mention it’s in an entirely different class w.r.t. performance, if a bit power-hungry compared to newer SoC designs. Neither one is going to compete with a cheap Atmel or RISC-V MCU in cost, but on the flip side the NEO Core et. al. can run a web server, Docker containers, or a NodeJS app under modest load vs. needing everything rewritten in very tightly-managed C. :)
- the_biot 4y agoVocore2 is the only time I've ever been ripped off on a crowdfunding project. Not impressed.
- techwizrd 4y agoCan you provide more details around this? I was interested in this, but now I'm hesitant.
- the_biot 4y agoThe board never arrived. At some point (after months) I asked them about it, and they said it had been returned to them due to not deliverable. When I asked them to send it out again, they demanded extra money for postage. The amount they wanted was more than the board originally cost, which had shipping included. Tried to reason with them, but they would not budge and got pretty rude about it; they wanted money. So I will never buy anything from them again.
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- dark-star 4y agoI backed both the VoCore 1 and 2 back when they were on Kickstarter (or Indiegogo?). They are awesome devices for their size, and yes, while there might be newer SOCs out there now, the VoCore was from 2014, and the VoCore2 from 2016, there was nothing comparable (in price, size and performance) back then. The guys behind VoCore keep updating their software stack, fixing bugs in the Linux WiFi driver. Just read their blog to see the level of attention to detail they're putting into their product
- braingenious 4y agoThese are super cool! Does anyone here actually use one of these for anything? I’m always tempted to get one of these sorts of things but I can never think of an actual real-world use that I’d need.
- cozzyd 4y agoNo industrial rating, unfortunately. https://octavosystems.com/octavo_products/osd335x-sm/ https://octavosystems.com/octavo_products/osd335x-sm/ is probably more interesting for a lot of applications (though maybe not as open... but this is the same chipset as the BeagleBoneBlack).