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It's open source. You can verify whether or not they're doing anything nefarious with your browsing history. You can then package it yourself and run it!

scarface74 4y ago
Or, instead of digging through every line of source code and packaging it myself, I can use an operating system where the vendor designed a content blocking framework that is privacy focused by default and that works with third party apps that use web views.
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  That's a great starting point / default but can't block complicated things as effectively and shouldn't be the only option on a platform.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    Care to post some real world example websites?
    - Nextgrid 4y ago
      The data processing consent popups on Google properties aren't blockable by this because they are JS-based and integrate with the rest of the page's JS code, so the only way to "defuse" them is to run active JS code provided by the blocker. The declarative framework can't do this by design.
      - scarface74 4y ago
        1Blocker iOS > Block Annoyances: blocks cookie notices And if you really want to, you can run 1Blocker scripts within Safari that can do the same type of thing. You have to go into Settings and you get a huge privacy warning. And this also works with embedded web views - unlike with Android
- fartcannon 4y ago
  Yeah, because you're just taking Apple's word that they aren't being nefarious. You can quite literally see for yourself whether or not ublock origin is. It's like arguing that being able to film the police shouldnt be allowed because they promise to be good.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    You can also see for yourself how ad blockers register what can be blocked to Safari by looking at the open source WebKit code…
    - fartcannon 4y ago
      Sorta! You can't install it so you can't prove it's the same thing! That's the problem with a locked OS.
      - scarface74 4y ago
        So you suggest that everyone look through every line of source code to ensure that it is legitimate? Did you also verify that Firefox installed from the App Store was the same as the open source version? Are you using only open sourced code on your phone or are you using Google provided binaries? Are your drivers open source for your chipset? If not, you are also using “locked down code”
        fartcannon 4y ago
        Towards open source freedom is my goal, not towards Tim Cook's bonus. nvidia just moved more towards open sourcing their drivers. You think that's out of kindness? No, it's because AMD and Intel have open drivers and nvidia is scared to lose market share to them. Vote with your wallet and we can have a better future. I don't care if it's iOS, Android, or Linux! Just that it's actually open.
        scarface74 4y ago

scarface74 4y ago

Or, instead of digging through every line of source code and packaging it myself, I can use an operating system where the vendor designed a content blocking framework that is privacy focused by default and that works with third party apps that use web views.

Dylan16807 4y ago
That's a great starting point / default but can't block complicated things as effectively and shouldn't be the only option on a platform.
- scarface74 4y ago
  Care to post some real world example websites?
  - Nextgrid 4y ago
    The data processing consent popups on Google properties aren't blockable by this because they are JS-based and integrate with the rest of the page's JS code, so the only way to "defuse" them is to run active JS code provided by the blocker. The declarative framework can't do this by design.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      1Blocker iOS > Block Annoyances: blocks cookie notices And if you really want to, you can run 1Blocker scripts within Safari that can do the same type of thing. You have to go into Settings and you get a huge privacy warning. And this also works with embedded web views - unlike with Android
fartcannon 4y ago
Yeah, because you're just taking Apple's word that they aren't being nefarious. You can quite literally see for yourself whether or not ublock origin is. It's like arguing that being able to film the police shouldnt be allowed because they promise to be good.
- scarface74 4y ago
  You can also see for yourself how ad blockers register what can be blocked to Safari by looking at the open source WebKit code…
  - fartcannon 4y ago
    Sorta! You can't install it so you can't prove it's the same thing! That's the problem with a locked OS.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      So you suggest that everyone look through every line of source code to ensure that it is legitimate? Did you also verify that Firefox installed from the App Store was the same as the open source version? Are you using only open sourced code on your phone or are you using Google provided binaries? Are your drivers open source for your chipset? If not, you are also using “locked down code”
      - fartcannon 4y ago
        Towards open source freedom is my goal, not towards Tim Cook's bonus. nvidia just moved more towards open sourcing their drivers. You think that's out of kindness? No, it's because AMD and Intel have open drivers and nvidia is scared to lose market share to them. Vote with your wallet and we can have a better future. I don't care if it's iOS, Android, or Linux! Just that it's actually open.
        scarface74 4y ago