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> That's quite literally disavowing responsibility. Unsure how you failed to read the emphasis on "themselves" in the comment you're replying to, and the line

by SamBam 4y ago

> That's quite literally disavowing responsibility. Unsure how you failed to read the emphasis on "themselves" in the comment you're replying to, and the line about protecting others.

ethbr0 4y ago
Taking umbrage on behalf of others, in a matter that should be personal choice, is equally questionable. Half of this thread believes we should protect people from themselves. The other half believes people should have the freedom to screw themselves over. Not sure there's much ground for compromise, given the contradictory nature of those positions.
- eric_cc 4y ago
  > Half of this thread believes we should protect people from themselves. > The other half believes people should have the freedom to screw themselves over. Nailed it. It comes down to principles. Do you believe in personal freedom? Or do you prefer authoritarian governments?
  - wyre 4y ago
    As long as there is government and capitalism we can only hope to be somewhere in between.
  - Daishiman 4y ago
    I want protection from myself because society is impossibly complex for a single mind to understand. If I buy edible stuff I trust that it won't poison me or kill me. If I drive a car I expect it respond to my commands and I expect other drivers to have a minimum amount of knowledge that they can actually assume and understand the risks of driving. The protections that the SEC and other bodies expect in this area are quite reasonable if you understand that there is no such thing as "personal" freedom; your well-being and successes and failures tie into the rest of society at large. Maybe if you lose part of your savings that might be tolerable for all, but if in the process of making a bad investment you leave yourself and your family homeless, get into drug addiction, and create a large burden to those around you, it's hard to consider that to be a simple personal issue.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  No, half of this thread believes we should protect people from predators. The other half feels that people who can't recognize predators are natural and deserving prey.

by SamBam 4y ago

> That's quite literally disavowing responsibility. Unsure how you failed to read the emphasis on "themselves" in the comment you're replying to, and the line about protecting others.

ethbr0 4y ago

Taking umbrage on behalf of others, in a matter that should be personal choice, is equally questionable. Half of this thread believes we should protect people from themselves. The other half believes people should have the freedom to screw themselves over. Not sure there's much ground for compromise, given the contradictory nature of those positions.

eric_cc 4y ago
> Half of this thread believes we should protect people from themselves. > The other half believes people should have the freedom to screw themselves over. Nailed it. It comes down to principles. Do you believe in personal freedom? Or do you prefer authoritarian governments?
- wyre 4y ago
  As long as there is government and capitalism we can only hope to be somewhere in between.
- Daishiman 4y ago
  I want protection from myself because society is impossibly complex for a single mind to understand. If I buy edible stuff I trust that it won't poison me or kill me. If I drive a car I expect it respond to my commands and I expect other drivers to have a minimum amount of knowledge that they can actually assume and understand the risks of driving. The protections that the SEC and other bodies expect in this area are quite reasonable if you understand that there is no such thing as "personal" freedom; your well-being and successes and failures tie into the rest of society at large. Maybe if you lose part of your savings that might be tolerable for all, but if in the process of making a bad investment you leave yourself and your family homeless, get into drug addiction, and create a large burden to those around you, it's hard to consider that to be a simple personal issue.
pessimizer 4y ago
No, half of this thread believes we should protect people from predators. The other half feels that people who can't recognize predators are natural and deserving prey.