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What do you mean? It was a regular topic on Russian state tv shows (like the Solovyov one). Now they changed to tune claiming they fight the best military in Eu

What do you mean? It was a regular topic on Russian state tv shows (like the Solovyov one). Now they changed to tune claiming they fight the best military in Europe. I think a lot of the west was certain Ukraine goes to chaos and capitulation as well. If you don't care what TV says then the logistical nightmare Russia is having is a good proof they didn't prepare to wage war for very long. They might be corrupt but not retarded.

sdfhdhjdw3 4y ago
The person you're responding to also said this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31338468 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31338468 I'm afraid you're speaking to a committed ideologue. He made up his mind that everything Russia does is on purpose and a great victory.
- aa-jv 4y ago
  Actually you are proving my point that the proclivity to infer - basically, make shit up - is contagious in conditions of mass censorship and hysteria. If the Russian state has made official proclamations to support the theories being presented here, it should be quite easy to refer to them. Anything else is just agitprop. You need to learn to recognize when you are actively participating in agitprop, clearly.
  - sdfhdhjdw3 4y ago
aa-jv 4y ago
Television is not an official means of state communication. Whatever you are being told to think by talking heads on the idiot-box, the real truth of what the Russian state 'wants' exists in its decrees and orders. Got some of those to refer to? No? Then you are participating in agitprop, plain and simple.
- nmeofthestate 4y ago
  >Television is not an official means of state communication. Not in democracies, no. But in Russia? The editorial line is handed down by the guys in charge.
  - aa-jv 4y ago
    BBC. ABC. MSNBC. CNN. All of them are fed editorial lines by TPTB. So? These are not the only sources of information, thankfully.

sdfhdhjdw3 4y ago

The person you're responding to also said this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31338468 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31338468 I'm afraid you're speaking to a committed ideologue. He made up his mind that everything Russia does is on purpose and a great victory.

aa-jv 4y ago
Actually you are proving my point that the proclivity to infer - basically, make shit up - is contagious in conditions of mass censorship and hysteria. If the Russian state has made official proclamations to support the theories being presented here, it should be quite easy to refer to them. Anything else is just agitprop. You need to learn to recognize when you are actively participating in agitprop, clearly.
- sdfhdhjdw3 4y ago

aa-jv 4y ago

Television is not an official means of state communication. Whatever you are being told to think by talking heads on the idiot-box, the real truth of what the Russian state 'wants' exists in its decrees and orders. Got some of those to refer to? No? Then you are participating in agitprop, plain and simple.

nmeofthestate 4y ago
>Television is not an official means of state communication. Not in democracies, no. But in Russia? The editorial line is handed down by the guys in charge.
- aa-jv 4y ago
  BBC. ABC. MSNBC. CNN. All of them are fed editorial lines by TPTB. So? These are not the only sources of information, thankfully.