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Ok, i'm not defending this, but as i might have a bit more insight on how the EU actually work, i will share my limited knowledge. The commission is the Europe

by orwin 5y ago

Ok, i'm not defending this, but as i might have a bit more insight on how the EU actually work, i will share my limited knowledge. The commission is the European executive power. It is a mostly unelected body. The parliament is the one you vote for if you do vote during the european elections The council is composed by representative of the head of state from the 27 countries. Once a law is drafted by the European commission (i don't think they can have the idea themselve btw, they just help draft the proposition to try to make it pass through the european court, but i believe they are not the originators of the proposition. 90% sure i'd say), it can follow two procedures: either the ordinary (also called codecision procedure) or the special (consultation procedure). The second case rarely happen, and is limited right now to trade laws basically. So the law we're talking about will have to follow the ordinary procedure. This procedure will set this law proposition in front of the parliament. The parliament will either accept or modify (cannot abandon the law that fast sadly). Then the european council will decide if they agree on the text. If they do not, they either reject it or they modify it (yes, i know) and send it to the parliament a second time. Once again review, modifications, and, if not enough support, rejection. This will certainly end the proposition here. If it is not rejected but simply modified, then the council will debate on this. Any government can choose to stop and/or reject the text at this point. I think there is one more step if the text isn't rejected yet but i'm not exactly sure what this step entails (i assume a special commission between the EU parliament and the countries that did not agree to the text/that push the text) It is interesting to have this information, but keep indignation low. I don't believe this will pass step 3.

denton-scratch 5y ago
> i don't think they can have the idea themselve btw Actually the European Commission is exactly where EU legislation comes from. It probably doesn't come from the commissioners themselves; they're mostly ex-politicians who are too unpopular and incompetent to get elected in their home countries. But those commissioners control the EU civil service; it's those bureaucrats that produce these ideas. As you say, the ordinary procedure is that the proposal is then passed to the toothless Parliament; and I think it then goes to the Council of Ministers to be passed. The Parliament can pass it back to the Commission for reconsideration, and that can happen several times. I don't know how often that happens; I'd guess not often.

by orwin 5y ago

denton-scratch 5y ago

> i don't think they can have the idea themselve btw Actually the European Commission is exactly where EU legislation comes from. It probably doesn't come from the commissioners themselves; they're mostly ex-politicians who are too unpopular and incompetent to get elected in their home countries. But those commissioners control the EU civil service; it's those bureaucrats that produce these ideas. As you say, the ordinary procedure is that the proposal is then passed to the toothless Parliament; and I think it then goes to the Council of Ministers to be passed. The Parliament can pass it back to the Commission for reconsideration, and that can happen several times. I don't know how often that happens; I'd guess not often.