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Sounds interesting, do you know of any good places to read about this?

by mwint 4y ago

jandrese 4y ago
Beyond what was already posted there is a good starting overview video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI24zwFLcuU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI24zwFLcuU
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bell-cot 4y ago
Start at the mouth of the Wikipedia rabbit-hole - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Battle_of_Guadalcanal#Second_Naval_Battle_of_Guadalcanal,_14%E2%80%9315_November https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Battle_of_Guadalcanal#Se... - and beware! - Wikipedia has some seriously deep citations on this, if you don't have plenty of hours to kill.
wolverine876 4y ago
I'd also be interested. Any books by professionals - historians, for example?
- rjsw 4y ago
  A biography of Admiral Lee [1] was recently published. [1] https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Battleship_Commander.html?id=gNJCEAAAQBAJ&source=kp_book_description&redir_esc=y https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Battleship_Commander....
  - GrumpyYoungMan 4y ago
    Along those lines, a biography video for Admiral Lee by a naval history enthusiast really manages to capture what an impressive and capable person he was: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58lfaMFUQc0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58lfaMFUQc0
    - wolverine876 4y ago
      Thanks. I have no complaint, but I want to point out that there is a difference between an enthusiast and a professional. Enthusiasts don't know what they don't know.
caycep 4y ago
shoot, I forget...but wasn't there a ton of material written re the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal? I vaguely remember the name Samuel Eliot Morrison. Also, as a kid, I remember a Natl Geo style writeup by Robert Ballard since he led an expedition to use ROVs to look at wrecks on Iron Bottom Sound. I think Lee got a bit of luck too...since all of the rest of his fleet got blown up around him and the Washington was able to take advantage of the fact that all the attention were on the burning destroyers and the South Dakota, while he could take shots at will.
- wcarey 4y ago
  Samuel Eliot Morison wrote a definitive history of the naval war in the Pacific, so your memory is good! Ian Toll's new series is shorter, but also top notch and benefits from more access to Japanese sources.
mandevil 4y ago
_Battleship at War_ by Ivan Musicant is the full story of the USS Washington, does a good job at detailing that battle from the USS Washington perspective, and also discusses the early portions of the development of the Combat Information Center (one of the first implementations of the manual processes described at the beginning of article- greasepaint on plastic, reverse writing, etc.- came aboard USS Washington so that Admiral Lee could have improved situational awareness inside the tiny armored room with basically no windows that was the citadel). Read it 30 years ago and still remember it vividly today.

Sounds interesting, do you know of any good places to read about this?

by mwint 4y ago

Sounds interesting, do you know of any good places to read about this?

Beyond what was already posted there is a good starting overview video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI24zwFLcuU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI24zwFLcuU

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bell-cot 4y ago

Start at the mouth of the Wikipedia rabbit-hole - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Battle_of_Guadalcanal#Second_Naval_Battle_of_Guadalcanal,_14%E2%80%9315_November https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Battle_of_Guadalcanal#Se... - and beware! - Wikipedia has some seriously deep citations on this, if you don't have plenty of hours to kill.

wolverine876 4y ago

I'd also be interested. Any books by professionals - historians, for example?

rjsw 4y ago
A biography of Admiral Lee [1] was recently published. [1] https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Battleship_Commander.html?id=gNJCEAAAQBAJ&source=kp_book_description&redir_esc=y https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Battleship_Commander....
- GrumpyYoungMan 4y ago
  Along those lines, a biography video for Admiral Lee by a naval history enthusiast really manages to capture what an impressive and capable person he was: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58lfaMFUQc0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58lfaMFUQc0
  - wolverine876 4y ago
    Thanks. I have no complaint, but I want to point out that there is a difference between an enthusiast and a professional. Enthusiasts don't know what they don't know.

caycep 4y ago

shoot, I forget...but wasn't there a ton of material written re the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal? I vaguely remember the name Samuel Eliot Morrison. Also, as a kid, I remember a Natl Geo style writeup by Robert Ballard since he led an expedition to use ROVs to look at wrecks on Iron Bottom Sound. I think Lee got a bit of luck too...since all of the rest of his fleet got blown up around him and the Washington was able to take advantage of the fact that all the attention were on the burning destroyers and the South Dakota, while he could take shots at will.

wcarey 4y ago
Samuel Eliot Morison wrote a definitive history of the naval war in the Pacific, so your memory is good! Ian Toll's new series is shorter, but also top notch and benefits from more access to Japanese sources.

mandevil 4y ago

_Battleship at War_ by Ivan Musicant is the full story of the USS Washington, does a good job at detailing that battle from the USS Washington perspective, and also discusses the early portions of the development of the Combat Information Center (one of the first implementations of the manual processes described at the beginning of article- greasepaint on plastic, reverse writing, etc.- came aboard USS Washington so that Admiral Lee could have improved situational awareness inside the tiny armored room with basically no windows that was the citadel). Read it 30 years ago and still remember it vividly today.