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The world bloats storage by 50% which harm user experience and ecology. That's a lot of regress while all it take is one symbolic dollar for a lifetime license.

The world bloats storage by 50% which harm user experience and ecology. That's a lot of regress while all it take is one symbolic dollar for a lifetime license..

nine_k 4y ago
For a lifetime licence for a binary blob, or for code you can compile as you move to a new hardware platform?
- ubercow13 4y ago
  What have binary blobs got to do with it?
  - nine_k 4y ago
    Are you legally allowed to distribute an open-source implementation? For last, say, 25 years I've seen many parties trying to hamper that, even in non-commercial setting (e.g. the original mp3 format encoder). If they don't, good!
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- YPPH 4y ago
  There are free and open source transcoders for H264 and H265 available now, most notably FFmpeg. The symbolic dollar is for a commercially released decoder binary, but that's not the only option. These closed formats are typically patent protected, not kept secret through proprietary encoding/decoding software. As you probably know: (1) Those patents will eventually expire, (2) The price of a patent is immediate and complete disclosure of the technical method underpinning the claims.
323 4y ago
There's some law which states that when the price of something halves, the usage doubles. Look at LED lighting, it's more energy efficient, so now we deploy more of it, ending up using exactly as much energy as before (but now everything is well lit). The same with video codecs, as they get better, we generate more video.
- needle0 4y ago
  Sounds like a form of Parkinson's Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law
- glowingly 4y ago
  Perhaps Jevon's Paradox? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox Though with LED lighting, it really depends. I still am using far less power for all of my lighting vs 1 incandescent light bulb. I am thinking specifically of the room/desk lamp of my childhood. Though I haven't counted the blinkenlights on my router, switch, etc. Maybe all of those added up will tip the balance.
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    > Though I haven't counted the blinkenlights on my router, switch, etc. Maybe all of those added up will tip the balance. No way those total over a watt.
    - tpxl 4y ago
      A blinkenlight LED is about 0.7V at 20mA, totaling about 0.14mW per LED, or 7142 LEDs per watt.
clouddrover 4y ago
The user experience and ecology of the internet is built on royalty-free open standards. It's up to video codecs to meet that standard. H.265 isn't interested in being royalty-free. But, luckily, AV1 is very interested in being royalty-free. So this time around we don't need to repeat the mistakes and compromises of the past.

The world bloats storage by 50% which harm user experience and ecology. That's a lot of regress while all it take is one symbolic dollar for a lifetime license..

nine_k 4y ago

For a lifetime licence for a binary blob, or for code you can compile as you move to a new hardware platform?

ubercow13 4y ago
What have binary blobs got to do with it?
- nine_k 4y ago
  Are you legally allowed to distribute an open-source implementation? For last, say, 25 years I've seen many parties trying to hamper that, even in non-commercial setting (e.g. the original mp3 format encoder). If they don't, good!
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YPPH 4y ago
There are free and open source transcoders for H264 and H265 available now, most notably FFmpeg. The symbolic dollar is for a commercially released decoder binary, but that's not the only option. These closed formats are typically patent protected, not kept secret through proprietary encoding/decoding software. As you probably know: (1) Those patents will eventually expire, (2) The price of a patent is immediate and complete disclosure of the technical method underpinning the claims.

323 4y ago

There's some law which states that when the price of something halves, the usage doubles. Look at LED lighting, it's more energy efficient, so now we deploy more of it, ending up using exactly as much energy as before (but now everything is well lit). The same with video codecs, as they get better, we generate more video.

needle0 4y ago
Sounds like a form of Parkinson's Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law
glowingly 4y ago
Perhaps Jevon's Paradox? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox Though with LED lighting, it really depends. I still am using far less power for all of my lighting vs 1 incandescent light bulb. I am thinking specifically of the room/desk lamp of my childhood. Though I haven't counted the blinkenlights on my router, switch, etc. Maybe all of those added up will tip the balance.
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  > Though I haven't counted the blinkenlights on my router, switch, etc. Maybe all of those added up will tip the balance. No way those total over a watt.
  - tpxl 4y ago
    A blinkenlight LED is about 0.7V at 20mA, totaling about 0.14mW per LED, or 7142 LEDs per watt.

clouddrover 4y ago

The user experience and ecology of the internet is built on royalty-free open standards. It's up to video codecs to meet that standard. H.265 isn't interested in being royalty-free. But, luckily, AV1 is very interested in being royalty-free. So this time around we don't need to repeat the mistakes and compromises of the past.