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What is new here?

jonny_eh 4y ago
I assume it's because this hit the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31317989 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31317989
- mawise 4y ago
  Given that discussion around licensing, what's the licensing story around AV1?
  - lynguist 4y ago
    > non-sublicensable, perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable According to its license which is very short and can be read here: https://code.videolan.org/videolan/dav1d/-/blob/master/doc/PATENTS https://code.videolan.org/videolan/dav1d/-/blob/master/doc/P...
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    - boatsie 4y ago
      That is the license by the creators but does not mean other companies/individuals won’t claim that it infringes on their patents. So if you adopt it, you’re still likely to be accused of infringing their patents.
      - phkahler 4y ago
        That's a hypothetical legal issue, not an actual one. Also, the companies involved in AV1 did their best to avoid that pitfall in development and have also shown a willingness to go after patent trolls who might try to pull something.
        glowingly 4y ago
        https://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=139636&msclkid=44592194d00c11ec86f3ba7a3682d566 https://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?Art... https://www.sisvel.com/blog/audio-video-coding-decoding/sisvel-announces-first-licensees-of-av1-vp9-patent-pools?msclkid=4459a9b8d00c11ecb11d45f5f7b04ed7 https://www.sisvel.com/blog/audio-video-coding-decoding/sisv... It became a real legal issue before the first consumer AV1 hardware was ever launched.
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      - pornel 4y ago
        That link is confusing, because it's not a license by dav1d creators, but a copy of the official AOMedia license: https://aomedia.org/license/patent-license/ https://aomedia.org/license/patent-license/ and it's backed by these companies: https://aomedia.org/membership/members/ https://aomedia.org/membership/members/
      - Dylan16807 4y ago
        That's true of every license ever. You can treat it as implied.

What is new here?

I assume it's because this hit the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31317989 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31317989

mawise 4y ago
Given that discussion around licensing, what's the licensing story around AV1?
- lynguist 4y ago
  > non-sublicensable, perpetual, worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-free, irrevocable According to its license which is very short and can be read here: https://code.videolan.org/videolan/dav1d/-/blob/master/doc/PATENTS https://code.videolan.org/videolan/dav1d/-/blob/master/doc/P...
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  - boatsie 4y ago
    That is the license by the creators but does not mean other companies/individuals won’t claim that it infringes on their patents. So if you adopt it, you’re still likely to be accused of infringing their patents.
    - phkahler 4y ago
      That's a hypothetical legal issue, not an actual one. Also, the companies involved in AV1 did their best to avoid that pitfall in development and have also shown a willingness to go after patent trolls who might try to pull something.
      - glowingly 4y ago
        https://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=139636&msclkid=44592194d00c11ec86f3ba7a3682d566 https://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?Art... https://www.sisvel.com/blog/audio-video-coding-decoding/sisvel-announces-first-licensees-of-av1-vp9-patent-pools?msclkid=4459a9b8d00c11ecb11d45f5f7b04ed7 https://www.sisvel.com/blog/audio-video-coding-decoding/sisv... It became a real legal issue before the first consumer AV1 hardware was ever launched.
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    - pornel 4y ago
      That link is confusing, because it's not a license by dav1d creators, but a copy of the official AOMedia license: https://aomedia.org/license/patent-license/ https://aomedia.org/license/patent-license/ and it's backed by these companies: https://aomedia.org/membership/members/ https://aomedia.org/membership/members/
    - Dylan16807 4y ago
      That's true of every license ever. You can treat it as implied.