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> stuck in the late 2000s jQuery is still the dominant paradigm. It's used on like 80% of websites. Wordpress is also still very widely used

by wppick 4y ago

WXLCKNO 4y ago
Right, but not for new projects.
have_faith 4y ago
Isn’t jQuery mostly dominant in stats because it’s included in WordPress by default (definitely in 90% of Wordpress themes). It’s been a while since I checked so this could be out of date.
- MBCook 4y ago
  Until very recently it was also a dependency of Bootstrap. That’s why it’s in my project (can’t upgrade yet).
  - mst 4y ago
    When using classic Angular (some time ago) with Bootstrap I ended up rewriting the JS parts of any bit of Bootstrap we used as Angular components for ease of debugging (I know lots of people hated Angular but it was still easier to only debug one framework-ish thing at once). The existence today of e.g. react-bootstrap suggests that I'm not the only one to have had this idea.
    - wikidani 4y ago
      >I know lots of people hated Angular Why would they hate on angular? Isn't just another framework
- tweetle_beetle 4y ago
  Yes, it's in core. And was only upgraded from a very outdated version fairly recently ( in terms of its lifetime) - https://make.wordpress.org/core/2020/06/29/updating-jquery-version-shipped-with-wordpress/ https://make.wordpress.org/core/2020/06/29/updating-jquery-v...
- duxup 4y ago
  I bet bootstrap has something to do with it too.
dgb23 4y ago
Many of the bigger libraries like bootstrap but also individual, rich plugins and widgets have moved to a JS native implementation, which is slightly more verbose but clearer, well supported and has no bundle size / dependency overhead. If I want/need "something more than native" today then I first ask myself again whether I _really_ need it and then maybe I will look for focused/small libraries and polyfills.

8 ms·

> stuck in the late 2000s jQuery is still the dominant paradigm. It's used on like 80% of websites. Wordpress is also still very widely used

by wppick 4y ago

> stuck in the late 2000s jQuery is still the dominant paradigm. It's used on like 80% of websites. Wordpress is also still very widely used

WXLCKNO 4y ago
Right, but not for new projects.
have_faith 4y ago
Isn’t jQuery mostly dominant in stats because it’s included in WordPress by default (definitely in 90% of Wordpress themes). It’s been a while since I checked so this could be out of date.
- MBCook 4y ago
  Until very recently it was also a dependency of Bootstrap. That’s why it’s in my project (can’t upgrade yet).
  - mst 4y ago
    When using classic Angular (some time ago) with Bootstrap I ended up rewriting the JS parts of any bit of Bootstrap we used as Angular components for ease of debugging (I know lots of people hated Angular but it was still easier to only debug one framework-ish thing at once). The existence today of e.g. react-bootstrap suggests that I'm not the only one to have had this idea.
    - wikidani 4y ago
      >I know lots of people hated Angular Why would they hate on angular? Isn't just another framework
- tweetle_beetle 4y ago
  Yes, it's in core. And was only upgraded from a very outdated version fairly recently ( in terms of its lifetime) - https://make.wordpress.org/core/2020/06/29/updating-jquery-version-shipped-with-wordpress/ https://make.wordpress.org/core/2020/06/29/updating-jquery-v...
- duxup 4y ago
  I bet bootstrap has something to do with it too.
dgb23 4y ago
Many of the bigger libraries like bootstrap but also individual, rich plugins and widgets have moved to a JS native implementation, which is slightly more verbose but clearer, well supported and has no bundle size / dependency overhead. If I want/need "something more than native" today then I first ask myself again whether I _really_ need it and then maybe I will look for focused/small libraries and polyfills.