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It's like driving into a park and saying you didn't target anyone so it wasn't murder. Don't know what to tell you, other than that's not the way the English l
by akhmatova 4y ago
It's like driving into a park and saying you didn't target anyone so it wasn't murder.
Don't know what to tell you, other than that's not the way the English language works. Regardless of your feelings about the moral and geopolitical aspects of the situation -- the verbs "to murder" and "to execute" obviously mean very different things, in plain functional terms.
That's all there is to it.
- ncmncm 4y agoYou can play whatever word games you like, but blood is on the hands of everybody who was in a position not to do it, who did anyway. And, on everybody whose job it is to prosecute them, and has not. The President is nowhere assigned any legal authority to waste US citizens on his own say-so, so everybody involved participated in what is, by strictest legal definition, a murder. There were accessories before the fact, and after, with copious documentary evidence.
- akhmatova 4y agoYou can play whatever word games you like I'm not playing word games about anything. And it seems you're getting weirdly hostile about something completely straightforward and basically trivial.
- PhileasNietzche 4y agoYou're the head of an organization. We'll call it one of the most complex and wide-reaching organisation in the world. You have multiple organisations under your umbrella responsible for evaluating and handling threats to your organisation and personnel. They're staffed by hundreds, if not thousands, of people who have been performing that specific mission since long before you became CEO. Those people present to you a list and make very convincing arguments that these are all threats that must be removed. Like any other CEO, you have dozens of equally-, less- and more-important items on your agenda. I'd forgive even the monumentally-stupid Donald J. Trump for it, glad that I am not the one who has to make that decision.
- tsol 4y agoSomething tells me you wouldn't forgive a foreign power for killing your children on account of "[having] dozens of equally-, less- and more-important items on [their] agenda". I mean even to say that you had a lot of more important things going on than worrying about accidently killing innocent American citizens.. says a lot. It's not spilled milk
- tsol 4y agoMy point is that they have effectively the same outcome-- death. The only difference between murder and execution is one is against the law, and the other is by the law. So what you're saying is the president didn't execute anyone, but he did murder someone. I fail to see how that is better
- Supermancho 4y ago> I fail to see how that is better There was never a question about the comparative effect on the victims. The issue is that execution and murder are different. Replacing one term with the other as if they are interchangeable is dishonest. Specifically, this tactic is posed to evoke an emotional reaction and implies the victim was targeted specifically. I don't actually need to explain this to you, as you already know it, but (often paired with ncmncm) disregard it in some perverse trolling exercise.
- akhmatova 4y agoI fail to see how that is better If you walk up to my initial comment (which everyone seems to have forgotten about) - it had nothing to do with whether one was "better" than the other. But rather, and exactly as stated in that comment: it was about the blatantly dishonest attempt, in the parent comment, to portray the situation as something that it obviously wasn't.
- ncmncm 4y agoYet, it was. His kids'deaths were at best negligent homicide. For which we also charge felonies.