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Search bar would bring the same problem to Shopify. Knockoff will always sell for cheaper, and will try to game the search so they'll end up at the top and quic

Search bar would bring the same problem to Shopify. Knockoff will always sell for cheaper, and will try to game the search so they'll end up at the top and quickly become the most purchased. It's the lack of search that differentiates Shopify. You get to hear about the shop itself, instead of wanting a product and searching for the cheapest/best. This latter behavior means you'll always end up finding drop shippers or asian sellers. While in the former you find a merchant that you like, trust, feel has a good reputation, and you don't mind purchasing from them even if they don't have the best price (mostly because you can't easily compare the price).

chii 5y ago
> (mostly because you can't easily compare the price) there would be third party scrapers to compare prices. I don't think you can really solve the problem of poor quality dropshippers, except if the platform mandates a return policy which doesn't cost the user.
zackees 5y ago
As a seller on Amazon I whole heartedly disagree. You have to experience trying to sell on Amazon to understand that their policies forbid quality markers like stating patents. The entire system is rigged so that people who design and make products can’t even differentiate from the knock offs. Amazon needs the competition so there is someplace on the internet where domestic manufacturers can have a leg up.
- function_seven 5y ago
  > You have to experience trying to sell on Amazon to understand that their policies forbid quality markers like stating patents. Can you expand on this? Do they have rules that stop you from saying things like, "Patented Blozzle Technology prevents the widget from snagging on gadgets" or listing a patent number in the description?
  - zackees 5y ago
    Yes, absolutely. If you say covered by patent X your product page won’t go through. It’s explicitly states in their guidelines that mentioning patents are disallowed.
    - speed_spread 5y ago
      What if you name your product like "Patented Toaster #54386549"? And you trademark that. Surely they can't prevent you from using the registered product's name to describe it?
      - WheatM 5y ago
      - amazonsucks 5y ago
        You're guilty of applying computer-thinking to human-problems, unfortunately. Amazon, much like a judge and jury, will not find your "clever loophole" interesting, and will deny you. Even if you have done everything to the letter, they may still ban you should they have their reasons. Having worked for a firm that attempted to publish applications to the Amazon app store that would have in some sense competed with their own (reading app), we had an experience where we did everything to the letter, our app would be "approved" but would magically be unavailable for download when we attempted to download it. Some form of hell-ban applied to the app store. Our C-Suite had previously sold a firm to Amazon and had a rolodex of high-level contacts at Amazon who all went from "good friend" to "cold shoulder" when asked if they had any clue or guidance from their former colleagues. They are a shifty, immoral firm.
    - didibus 5y ago
      I'm not denying your experience, but I'm not able to find that policy/guidelines, can you link to it?

chii 5y ago

> (mostly because you can't easily compare the price) there would be third party scrapers to compare prices. I don't think you can really solve the problem of poor quality dropshippers, except if the platform mandates a return policy which doesn't cost the user.

zackees 5y ago

As a seller on Amazon I whole heartedly disagree. You have to experience trying to sell on Amazon to understand that their policies forbid quality markers like stating patents. The entire system is rigged so that people who design and make products can’t even differentiate from the knock offs. Amazon needs the competition so there is someplace on the internet where domestic manufacturers can have a leg up.

function_seven 5y ago
> You have to experience trying to sell on Amazon to understand that their policies forbid quality markers like stating patents. Can you expand on this? Do they have rules that stop you from saying things like, "Patented Blozzle Technology prevents the widget from snagging on gadgets" or listing a patent number in the description?
- zackees 5y ago
  Yes, absolutely. If you say covered by patent X your product page won’t go through. It’s explicitly states in their guidelines that mentioning patents are disallowed.
  - speed_spread 5y ago
    What if you name your product like "Patented Toaster #54386549"? And you trademark that. Surely they can't prevent you from using the registered product's name to describe it?
    - WheatM 5y ago
    - amazonsucks 5y ago
      You're guilty of applying computer-thinking to human-problems, unfortunately. Amazon, much like a judge and jury, will not find your "clever loophole" interesting, and will deny you. Even if you have done everything to the letter, they may still ban you should they have their reasons. Having worked for a firm that attempted to publish applications to the Amazon app store that would have in some sense competed with their own (reading app), we had an experience where we did everything to the letter, our app would be "approved" but would magically be unavailable for download when we attempted to download it. Some form of hell-ban applied to the app store. Our C-Suite had previously sold a firm to Amazon and had a rolodex of high-level contacts at Amazon who all went from "good friend" to "cold shoulder" when asked if they had any clue or guidance from their former colleagues. They are a shifty, immoral firm.
  - didibus 5y ago
    I'm not denying your experience, but I'm not able to find that policy/guidelines, can you link to it?