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Don't forget about Pinocchio, who in the original Italian children's book is tortured and hanged for being such a "bad boy" [0][1]. 0: https://en.wikipedia.org

Don't forget about Pinocchio, who in the original Italian children's book is tortured and hanged for being such a "bad boy" [0][1]. 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio#Fictional_character_description https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio#Fictional_character_... 1: https://slate.com/culture/2011/10/carlo-collodi-s-pinocchio-why-is-the-original-pinocchio-subjected-to-such-sadistic-treatment.html https://slate.com/culture/2011/10/carlo-collodi-s-pinocchio-... The part of the movie where all of the boys on Pleasure Island begin to turn into donkeys always freaked me out as a kid.

buro9 4y ago
Ah, this reminds me of a review of the book I stumbled upon recently that is eye opening... eye opening as it shows how the context of the reader is imprinted on their experience of the reading. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R1JOT49B5OUAL0/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewpnt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=3734020190#R1JOT49B5OUAL0 https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R1JOT49B5OUAL0/... Even the opening of the review is... something: > To be honest, I struggled with this book. I found the main character incredibly frustrating. He almost always did the wrong thing. I mean, almost ALWAYS. Well, people sometimes do (including me!), but what he does is also almost always incredibly stupid. Well, again, people do stupid things (including me!), and the main character is, after all, a puppet who is only moments old at the beginning of the book, so how is he to know better? Fair question, but still, I found the book hard work. He just did not seem to learn from his mistakes.
- meristohm 4y ago
  Hovering over that link doesn't reveal the title of the book.
spacechild1 4y ago
Judging from the plot summary (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Pinocchio#Plot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Pinocchio#Pl...), the original Pinocchio book is pretty messed up as a whole!
- selimthegrim 4y ago
  Wait until you see the Roberto Benigni film co-starring his wife.
- mdp2021 4y ago
  I'm not sure "messed up" is the most appropriate expression, if that may refer to a shaky mental status. It's all probably very intentional and lucid. Benedetto Croce - one of the greatest Italian philosophers - would not had taken that book in such high regard otherwise. It's just about life, explained through metaphors from somebody who had lived it a bit to some who may have lived it less, and could benefit from a few warnings. Collodi was also a gambler: one night he lost an especially large amount of money, then happened to meet a friend, who commissioned him a literary work so as to help with the payment of his debts. "Le Avventure di Pinocchio" was in a way born out of deeds, to warn against deeds.
tablespoon 4y ago
>> Don't forget about Pinocchio, who in the original Italian children's book is tortured and hanged for being such a "bad boy" [0][1]. >> 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio#Fictional_character_description https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio#Fictional_character_...: > Pinocchio's bad behavior, rather than being charming or endearing, is meant to serve as a warning. That reminds me something I read about "Inuit parenting." They live in a dangerous and difficult environment, so they'd tell kids all kinds of scary stories designed to get them to do the correct thing before they could understood the actual danger.
- monknomo 4y ago
  Here's an Dena'ina example: http://denaina.anchoragemuseum.org/multimedia/denaina/the-stupid-boy.html http://denaina.anchoragemuseum.org/multimedia/denaina/the-st...

buro9 4y ago

Ah, this reminds me of a review of the book I stumbled upon recently that is eye opening... eye opening as it shows how the context of the reader is imprinted on their experience of the reading. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R1JOT49B5OUAL0/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewpnt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=3734020190#R1JOT49B5OUAL0 https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R1JOT49B5OUAL0/... Even the opening of the review is... something: > To be honest, I struggled with this book. I found the main character incredibly frustrating. He almost always did the wrong thing. I mean, almost ALWAYS. Well, people sometimes do (including me!), but what he does is also almost always incredibly stupid. Well, again, people do stupid things (including me!), and the main character is, after all, a puppet who is only moments old at the beginning of the book, so how is he to know better? Fair question, but still, I found the book hard work. He just did not seem to learn from his mistakes.

meristohm 4y ago
Hovering over that link doesn't reveal the title of the book.

spacechild1 4y ago

Judging from the plot summary (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Pinocchio#Plot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Pinocchio#Pl...), the original Pinocchio book is pretty messed up as a whole!

selimthegrim 4y ago
Wait until you see the Roberto Benigni film co-starring his wife.
mdp2021 4y ago
I'm not sure "messed up" is the most appropriate expression, if that may refer to a shaky mental status. It's all probably very intentional and lucid. Benedetto Croce - one of the greatest Italian philosophers - would not had taken that book in such high regard otherwise. It's just about life, explained through metaphors from somebody who had lived it a bit to some who may have lived it less, and could benefit from a few warnings. Collodi was also a gambler: one night he lost an especially large amount of money, then happened to meet a friend, who commissioned him a literary work so as to help with the payment of his debts. "Le Avventure di Pinocchio" was in a way born out of deeds, to warn against deeds.

tablespoon 4y ago

>> Don't forget about Pinocchio, who in the original Italian children's book is tortured and hanged for being such a "bad boy" [0][1]. >> 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio#Fictional_character_description https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio#Fictional_character_...: > Pinocchio's bad behavior, rather than being charming or endearing, is meant to serve as a warning. That reminds me something I read about "Inuit parenting." They live in a dangerous and difficult environment, so they'd tell kids all kinds of scary stories designed to get them to do the correct thing before they could understood the actual danger.

monknomo 4y ago
Here's an Dena'ina example: http://denaina.anchoragemuseum.org/multimedia/denaina/the-stupid-boy.html http://denaina.anchoragemuseum.org/multimedia/denaina/the-st...