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This exists, just use Pixel?
by ev1 4y ago
This exists, just use Pixel?
- Dylan16807 4y agoI don't think Pixels let you keep all the functionality when you unlock the bootloader. Am I wrong?
- bpye 4y agoYou might be thinking of SafetyNet. I'm not sure if there are any reliable ways to get root without tripping SafetyNet, but last I knew you could - on a Pixel - flash a different ROM and then relock the bootloader, and you'd be fine. Things may have changed in the last few years though.
- josephcsible 4y agoYou still fail SafetyNet if you do that.
- aaaaaaaaata 4y agoWhat apps are actually enforcing SafetyNet?
- diggernet 4y agoI wonder if would it be possible for something like εxodus to detect this when they scan an app. I'd love to see a SafetyNet flag in their scan reports.
- josephcsible 4y agoSnapchat, Netflix, Pokemon Go, Super Mario Run, Android Pay, McDonald's, and most bank apps immediately come to mind.
- bpye 4y agoMost of those make sense but why McDonalds?
- josephcsible 4y agoNone of them make sense. Remember that if it were really about security, then phones vulnerable to Dirty Pipe wouldn't pass, but they do. It's just about control.
- ev1 4y ago"Coupon fraud"
- bpye 4y agoIt was always my banking apps that caused me problems.
- ev1 4y agoYou retain whatever functionality you want when you unlock the bootloader, or relock it after flashing. Apps can choose to not service you if they detect modifications though.
- selfhoster11 4y agoYou're being obtuse. An application choosing not to service you definitely counts as losing functionality.
- Dylan16807 4y agoWhen the hardware was painstakingly designed so that I can't tell those applications "no modifications here", that's very much a manufacturer and OS problem.
- josephcsible 4y agoYou're not wrong. Android Pay will stop working, and so will a bunch of third-party apps.
- colordrops 4y agoYou can use Magisk + Zygisk/DenyList to get these apps working on a rooted device.
- josephcsible 4y agoThe trick Magisk modules can use to hide the unlocked bootloader only works as long as Google still supports legacy devices that didn't do hardware attestation of the bootloader being locked. As soon as enough time passes that they flip that switch on their end, that will totally break forever. Also, even today, a few apps aren't fooled by that solution. Try the McDonald's app for example.
- colordrops 4y agoIf Google decides to corner everyone it will only empower them to put energy into non-google ecosystems. It would be a big mistake IMHO for google to cut this off.
- causality0 4y agoPixels have their own issues. For example, Google at some point decided giving users HDMI-out was cannibalizing their Chromecast sales and haven't offered it on their phones since. They tend not to play nice with combo 3.5mm/charging adapters, and often have bizarre hardware and software issues that only crop up a few months after launch. Their new SoC is essentially a rebadged Exynos, and as a consequence it has trash GPU drivers that gimp gaming console emulation to an astonishing degree. Pixel users can't crop the screen to hide the camera cutout so I hope you enjoy watching videos with the world's biggest dead pixel on one side of the screen.