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SnappyMail – Modern, lightweight and fast web-based email client
- tut-urut-utut 4y agoIt's so ugly it hurts. And I didn't notice any snappiness.
- mccorrinall 4y agoVery snappy on my phone. However, it does not have a login button, so when autofilling my login, I have to touch an input field and press enter on the keyboard
- savolai 4y agoThe login button is the triangle on the right side of password field. Agreed, confusing.
- mccorrinall 4y agoOh, thanks. I think I didn’t see it, because inline buttons in the password field are usually to mask/unmask the password and a login button is usually placed below the form.
- 8organicbits 4y agoRelative to gmail, I don't agree. The last time I loaded gmail in the web it took 30 seconds to load and the UI was full of so many non-mail related icons and things. I usually give up and load HTML view. I saw ~1 second load time and <1 second to change views. For UI I like the minimalism. Although I won't use this, I want better native mail browsers, not web clients. What load times are others seeing?
- andylynch 4y agoHaving used gmail since its closed beta I’m bemused that it’s now consistently slower to load a new gmail tab than to cold start Outlook for the same account.
- thepra 4y agothe GUI is quite ugly not correctly positioned or proportional in many places, IMO
- msk-lywenn 4y agoI was using rainloop and the UI was better. I'm not sure what's wrong in Snappymail exactly. It's super similar and MUCH more lightweight so it seems that, in the process of optimizing, some important details where lost. Edit: Now that I've looked a bit into it, I think it's just the font. Snappymail uses Deja Vu Sans while Rainloop used Arial. If I change the css in the firefox inspector, it looks oh so much better with Arial, imho. Icons still look worse though...
- m4lvin 4y agoRelated: RainLoop (of which SnappyMail is a fork) seems to be no longer developed and has a known stored XSS problem: https://blog.sonarsource.com/rainloop-emails-at-risk-due-to-code-flaw/ https://blog.sonarsource.com/rainloop-emails-at-risk-due-to-... SnappyMail is not affected by this and seems to be the successor.
- msk-lywenn 4y agoI recently switched from Rainloop to Snappymail and I'm quite happy with the upgrade. The UI looks slightly worse but it's much snappier. I don't use it often as I prefer to use native clients but when I do, I'm happy with it.
- marban 4y agoNo wonder people hate email when it comes with an interface like this.
- reayn 4y agoI mean, it's fast, that's all it claims to be really. The UI is nothing that can't be fixed with an admittedly large amount of CSS tweaks :)
- 8organicbits 4y agoWhere should email client developers be looking for inspiration?
- 0des 4y agoA delorean? Eudora was the bees knees.
- contingencies 4y agohttps://neomutt.org/ https://neomutt.org/ https://meli.delivery/ https://meli.delivery/ https://github.com/sup-heliotrope/sup https://github.com/sup-heliotrope/sup https://notmuchmail.org/ https://notmuchmail.org/ https://github.com/pazz/alot https://github.com/pazz/alot https://aerc-mail.org/ https://aerc-mail.org/ https://github.com/wangp/bower https://github.com/wangp/bower https://alpine.x10host.com/ https://alpine.x10host.com/
- 8organicbits 4y agoThose all appear to be terminal based, which I'm not sure is helpful for discussions about the UI of a web-based mail client. Unless there was a design element you thought could be ported to the web?
- contingencies 4y agoOn a text-oriented site like HN? You can lead a horse to water...
- Markoff 4y agoI don't see much difference compared to Outlook.com (on desktop, which looks pretty much like app, just block ads through ublock), it's faster, but also significantly uglier missing/hidden login button ain't very user friendly, I even clicked on language icon first thinking it's maybe login button
- Semaphor 4y agoFor both this and RainLoop, clicks on emails sometimes don’t seem to register. Is that just me?
- subbz 4y agoIt seems to be a problem with the 2-3px between the columns. Should be easy to fix.
- drudoo 4y agoIve been using Cypht for years, but anyone know how it compares to SnappyMail?
- fffrantz 4y agoI've been a Snappymail user for a bit. UI is definitely needing some work, but performance is great, setup is easy, and it runs on docker flawlessly. Honestly, for the quick webmail needs, it's perfect. If you want something with more features, there's always SoGO or horde.
- caractacus 4y agoWell the demo leaves a bit to be desired... https://imgur.com/a/dF0ehaN https://imgur.com/a/dF0ehaN
- nickspacek 4y agoWell, the fight between the people trying to create these and those trying to delete it seems to have brought down the demo site. Mission accomplished?
- marcodiego 4y agoAm I understanding it right that it is a form of racism?
- dsr_ 4y agoYou are seeing trolls defacing the demo.
- giancarlostoro 4y agoI may or may not have spent two minutes deleting folders... They should really make folders selectable for easy deletion. (I'm not affiliated with the project, I moderate other communities, this is weirdly common of trolls online). Of course I say that and it got spammed to death. I think someone has a script going at this point.
- srwx 4y agoit took all of 30s to write a bash script to delete them
- giancarlostoro 4y agoThey'll just change the folder names to something else eventually. Maybe they should just disable creating folders for the demo. Also, you're really expecting me to write bash this early in the morning? I have not written bash for a few years now. I guess I could of just had postman generate part of the code for me and done it in an even shorter span of time, but I assumed they were not automating the vandalism.
- ho_schi 4y agoMobile booting? I hope we will soon see Thunderbird on Android! Finally decent Email-App with PUSH-IMAP, local storage of all E-Mails and a comfortable UI. But K9? It works. But it is complicated and has raw edges e.g. the visible permanent notification about PUSH. But FairMail? Cannot store all E-Mails locally. But GMAIL? Doesn't support PUSH with IMAP, only with Googles own Email-Service. Cannot store E-Mails locally.
- detaro 4y ago> the visible permanent notification about PUSH. by what magic way do you think Thunderbird will not need that?
- zinekeller 4y ago> by what magic way do you think Thunderbird will not need that? The magic of not knowing how Android handles background tasks, I guess.
- rakoo 4y agoFairEmail can store all emails but doesn't by default
- ho_schi 4y agoThanks. I've checked it again: https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/241ecce7527daafeb021e2c22f96617ee8e19108/FAQ.md#user-content-faq50 https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/241ecce7527daafeb021e... Was awkward. https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/6eba172ee7f77e14008132bd64381d312d585a91/FAQ.md#user-content-faq50 https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/6eba172ee7f77e1400813... But implemented it now!
- rakoo 4y agoThis one won't be enough: there's another setting saying how long you want to keep messages, with a checkbox to say "indefinitely"
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- adlpz 4y agoIs there anything out there comparable to Gmail but open source? To be honest what I look for in an email client is not how snappy it is. It's how much it helps me deal with email. Gmail does it quite well. Search is good, tags are good enough, the interface is not bad, editing is pretty decent, features are plentiful. But I'd love an open source self-hosted alternative.
- 0des 4y agoRoundcube is nice
- asciii 4y agoI'm not OP but this is cool to know. What do you like about it?
- nine_k 4y agoA feature request for tags in Roundcube is open since 2009.
- 0des 4y agoWhat is your point? Does the amount of dangling feature requests mean that it is not good? Does your snark negate my joy for using it?
- nine_k 4y agoIt means that Roundcube is missing one of the two Gmail's killer features, tags. (The other is search.)
- remram 4y agoIt means that they don't see it as out-of-scope or undesirable, but still didn't implement it after all this time. It indicates something in terms of product management and/or code extensibility. Not that an open source project owes you anything, of course.
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- Artful-Dodger 4y agoHi I know nothing about coding whatsoever. Im curious why would someone set up a something like this? You would have to host your own mail server correct? Is it to have control over your data? Is it just "simpler" and faster than gmail?
- djbusby 4y agoCould connect this client to any mail server.
- dsr_ 4y agoThis is a mail client, like Outlook or Thunderbird or Gmail. It has a web interface, like Gmail, but is not tied to any particular mail server, which makes it more like Thunderbird. It is occasionally convenient: anywhere you can sit down at a web browser, you can read your mail. I think that it's not really featureful enough to be the primary mail client for most HN readers.
- louis-lau 4y agoYou can use it with any email server, doesn't have to be hosted by yourself. It's not better than the Gmail web client or anything, but it may be better than a shitty corporate webmail, or just better than no webmail at all :)
- freediver 4y agoKudos to the author. My recommendation would be to make it work without JS (JavaSCript should be used to enhance the UX, not create it - specially in an application like this).
- mcluck 4y agoI don't know if it's been hugged to death but I can't load the demo. Hitting the wayback machine shows a splash page but then it never loads beyond that.