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Plan C Pills

111 points by NotPractical 4y ago

kstrauser 4y ago
Thanks! I've passed that along to some friend groups.
micromacrofoot 4y ago
Fantastically informational, very important right now.
meerita 4y ago
devindotcom 4y ago
HeyJane, another provider: https://www.heyjane.co/ https://www.heyjane.co/ Miscarriage + Abortion Hotline, many resources: https://www.mahotline.org/ https://www.mahotline.org/
- NotPractical 4y ago
  This site is not a provider; it's an informative resource that links to other sites that offer abortion pills, such as Hey Jane.
coding123 4y ago
Better order fast.
NotPractical 4y ago
I think telemedicine abortion provider startups (e.g. https://heyjane.co https://heyjane.co) have the potential to be seriously disruptive and allow women to access abortion care even as their rights are under attack. Also, I thought the "Creative ways to access pills" section that shows up when you select a state where telemedicine abortion isn't currently officially available was interesting: > Rosa lives in Texas where the law makes it hard to find pills by mail. Here is how she used a telemedicine service in another state and a mail forwarding service to get pills mailed to her home. https://www.plancpills.org/states/texas#results-anchor https://www.plancpills.org/states/texas#results-anchor
- melony 4y ago
  Said services could be charged as accessories to a crime and their directors and executives may be jailed if they ever step foot in the wrong state. This is not a matter of failing to do KYC, they are knowingly sending these pills.
  - colinmhayes 4y ago
    Surely it won't be long until a chinese firm whose executives have no plans of ever visiting the US steps up.
    - tsol 4y ago
      Isn't sending illegal things by mail a federal crime? They'll probably start searching packages. Although I imagine it'd be very hard to stop it all just as they fail to stop drugs being brought in by mail
      - usrn 4y ago
        Speaking of that I think we're all aware of the purity issues with Chinese drugs.
  - AaronFriel 4y ago
    Indeed, a number of states have passed laws to make abortion and accessory to it a felony, immediately upon the overturning of Roe v. Wade. In Texas, providing a service may be a first degree felony with a life sentence.
  - olliej 4y ago
    It’s amazing how aggressive conservative states are at enforcing their laws across state boundaries, but then turn around a cry states rights whenever things are the other way around. Almost like they’re a bunch of jackbooted theocratic hypocrites.
    - DiggyJohnson 4y ago
encryptluks2 4y ago
- micromacrofoot 4y ago
  versus the alternative of giving birth and raising a child you don’t want, which also doesn’t include mental health services and lasts roughly 18 years longer
  - meerita 4y ago
    - micromacrofoot 4y ago
      Yeah because that has zero psychological implications and always goes well. How about letting the person doing the work decide.
      - meerita 4y ago
        Yeah, because killing your own son/daughter will bring zero psychological implications.
        micromacrofoot 4y ago
        Seems like we’ve encountered a recursion error, I’ll say it again: let the person doing the work decide.
        meerita 4y ago
        Imagine I invite you to a trip in my private jet. We're going to London, and when we're on the middle of the trip, I decide you're no longer welcome on my property. So I open the door the plane and drop you off of the plane. Most people will agree that is unfair, the ideal would be landing and then you move on, but i killed you just because i did the work deciding what was good for me, by convinience. That's your argument.
analog31 4y ago
Ask HN: What's the shelf life?
- steanne 4y ago
  https://www.metafilter.com/195196/Abortion-rights-under-imminent-threat#8242626 https://www.metafilter.com/195196/Abortion-rights-under-immi...
crossingTime 4y ago
- s5300 4y ago
  Politicians regularly willfully murder their own constituents left & right, willy nilly. Boo hoo. I bet some are sad we can’t still use toddlers as naked chimney sweeps.
- plasticsoprano 4y ago
  Yes! Exactly. How is it different than if you killed the child right after it was delivered? Or how about a couple of years later while it was physically and sexually abused in foster care because the mother had to give the child to the state. Or maybe the mother tried to do good by the child and kept it but it became such a burden that she was unable to continue her education and she ended up in a less than ideal situation and the child became malnourished and died or the mother fell into drugs as an escape and the mother made less than good decisions leading to the child's death. Or maybe the mother busted her ass but because of continuous cutbacks by the GOP was unable to get the assistance she needed to get out of the projects and that child fell in with the wrong crowd, joined a gang, and ended up killing a number of other people? If you're "pro-life" then you have then you have to support the life post birth as well. Pro-choice reduces deaths through safe abortions. Pro-choice reduces deaths by not bringing babies into the world that their parents and social welfare programs, that the right continue to kill, can't support. If you're going to be hyperbolic with "liberals wanting to kill babies" then I'm going to be hyperbolic with "The right want to kill babies, children, toddlers, and their parents and make their life a living hell until their demise comes"
  - meerita 4y ago
  - pmdulaney 4y ago
  - lamp987 4y ago
waynecochran 4y ago
- newsycom 4y ago
  "life". also rtfa.
- dhritzkiv 4y ago
  You probably meant embryo or fetus, but to answer the 40 week part of your question: > The “abortion pill” is actually 5 pills, taken one or two days apart. It's the 4th or so heading on the linked site.
  - waynecochran 4y ago
    No I meant baby. And I meant life.
    - plasticsoprano 4y ago
      - waynecochran 4y ago
        Strange premise to the comment. I care about you, me, your children, my children.
      - pmdulaney 4y ago
    - plasticsoprano 4y ago
      It's not a weird premise. You rather save the life of a fetus than save the life of an 18 month old born to a mother that can't support that child. You'd rather that woman have that child, be backed into a corner where that child then becomes a ward of the state and that child be abused by it's foster family, resulting in either death at which point it was a wash or that child grows up to be part of the cycle of abuse. Or maybe that mother keeps the child but due to the lack of support (do those mega churches need to be so mega) she ends up in a less than ideal part of town and can't fully keep an eye on that child and it joins a gang where it kills a few people before meeting its own demise. Damn, now that one loss of life due to abortion is a loss of 4 lives. Or maybe that child does make it through life but never really gets out of the poverty cycle that was started because its mother had no control over her body. It never really lives the life it wants. It doesn't feel the love of god, it just feels forsaken until its last breath. But I guess that's ok because it was still here and that's all that matters. So much love.
jleyank 4y ago
HKH2 4y ago
Isn't misoprostol horse medicine?

Plan C Pills

111 points by NotPractical 4y ago

kstrauser 4y ago

Thanks! I've passed that along to some friend groups.

micromacrofoot 4y ago

Fantastically informational, very important right now.

meerita 4y ago

devindotcom 4y ago

HeyJane, another provider: https://www.heyjane.co/ https://www.heyjane.co/ Miscarriage + Abortion Hotline, many resources: https://www.mahotline.org/ https://www.mahotline.org/

NotPractical 4y ago
This site is not a provider; it's an informative resource that links to other sites that offer abortion pills, such as Hey Jane.

coding123 4y ago

Better order fast.

NotPractical 4y ago

I think telemedicine abortion provider startups (e.g. https://heyjane.co https://heyjane.co) have the potential to be seriously disruptive and allow women to access abortion care even as their rights are under attack. Also, I thought the "Creative ways to access pills" section that shows up when you select a state where telemedicine abortion isn't currently officially available was interesting: > Rosa lives in Texas where the law makes it hard to find pills by mail. Here is how she used a telemedicine service in another state and a mail forwarding service to get pills mailed to her home. https://www.plancpills.org/states/texas#results-anchor https://www.plancpills.org/states/texas#results-anchor

melony 4y ago
Said services could be charged as accessories to a crime and their directors and executives may be jailed if they ever step foot in the wrong state. This is not a matter of failing to do KYC, they are knowingly sending these pills.
- colinmhayes 4y ago
  Surely it won't be long until a chinese firm whose executives have no plans of ever visiting the US steps up.
  - tsol 4y ago
    Isn't sending illegal things by mail a federal crime? They'll probably start searching packages. Although I imagine it'd be very hard to stop it all just as they fail to stop drugs being brought in by mail
    - usrn 4y ago
      Speaking of that I think we're all aware of the purity issues with Chinese drugs.
- AaronFriel 4y ago
  Indeed, a number of states have passed laws to make abortion and accessory to it a felony, immediately upon the overturning of Roe v. Wade. In Texas, providing a service may be a first degree felony with a life sentence.
- olliej 4y ago
  It’s amazing how aggressive conservative states are at enforcing their laws across state boundaries, but then turn around a cry states rights whenever things are the other way around. Almost like they’re a bunch of jackbooted theocratic hypocrites.
  - DiggyJohnson 4y ago

encryptluks2 4y ago

micromacrofoot 4y ago
versus the alternative of giving birth and raising a child you don’t want, which also doesn’t include mental health services and lasts roughly 18 years longer
- meerita 4y ago
  - micromacrofoot 4y ago
    Yeah because that has zero psychological implications and always goes well. How about letting the person doing the work decide.
    - meerita 4y ago
      Yeah, because killing your own son/daughter will bring zero psychological implications.
      - micromacrofoot 4y ago
        Seems like we’ve encountered a recursion error, I’ll say it again: let the person doing the work decide.
        meerita 4y ago
        Imagine I invite you to a trip in my private jet. We're going to London, and when we're on the middle of the trip, I decide you're no longer welcome on my property. So I open the door the plane and drop you off of the plane. Most people will agree that is unfair, the ideal would be landing and then you move on, but i killed you just because i did the work deciding what was good for me, by convinience. That's your argument.

analog31 4y ago

Ask HN: What's the shelf life?

steanne 4y ago
https://www.metafilter.com/195196/Abortion-rights-under-imminent-threat#8242626 https://www.metafilter.com/195196/Abortion-rights-under-immi...

crossingTime 4y ago

s5300 4y ago
Politicians regularly willfully murder their own constituents left & right, willy nilly. Boo hoo. I bet some are sad we can’t still use toddlers as naked chimney sweeps.
plasticsoprano 4y ago
Yes! Exactly. How is it different than if you killed the child right after it was delivered? Or how about a couple of years later while it was physically and sexually abused in foster care because the mother had to give the child to the state. Or maybe the mother tried to do good by the child and kept it but it became such a burden that she was unable to continue her education and she ended up in a less than ideal situation and the child became malnourished and died or the mother fell into drugs as an escape and the mother made less than good decisions leading to the child's death. Or maybe the mother busted her ass but because of continuous cutbacks by the GOP was unable to get the assistance she needed to get out of the projects and that child fell in with the wrong crowd, joined a gang, and ended up killing a number of other people? If you're "pro-life" then you have then you have to support the life post birth as well. Pro-choice reduces deaths through safe abortions. Pro-choice reduces deaths by not bringing babies into the world that their parents and social welfare programs, that the right continue to kill, can't support. If you're going to be hyperbolic with "liberals wanting to kill babies" then I'm going to be hyperbolic with "The right want to kill babies, children, toddlers, and their parents and make their life a living hell until their demise comes"
- meerita 4y ago
- pmdulaney 4y ago
- lamp987 4y ago

waynecochran 4y ago

newsycom 4y ago
"life". also rtfa.
dhritzkiv 4y ago
You probably meant embryo or fetus, but to answer the 40 week part of your question: > The “abortion pill” is actually 5 pills, taken one or two days apart. It's the 4th or so heading on the linked site.
- waynecochran 4y ago
  No I meant baby. And I meant life.
  - plasticsoprano 4y ago
    - waynecochran 4y ago
      Strange premise to the comment. I care about you, me, your children, my children.
    - pmdulaney 4y ago
  - plasticsoprano 4y ago
    It's not a weird premise. You rather save the life of a fetus than save the life of an 18 month old born to a mother that can't support that child. You'd rather that woman have that child, be backed into a corner where that child then becomes a ward of the state and that child be abused by it's foster family, resulting in either death at which point it was a wash or that child grows up to be part of the cycle of abuse. Or maybe that mother keeps the child but due to the lack of support (do those mega churches need to be so mega) she ends up in a less than ideal part of town and can't fully keep an eye on that child and it joins a gang where it kills a few people before meeting its own demise. Damn, now that one loss of life due to abortion is a loss of 4 lives. Or maybe that child does make it through life but never really gets out of the poverty cycle that was started because its mother had no control over her body. It never really lives the life it wants. It doesn't feel the love of god, it just feels forsaken until its last breath. But I guess that's ok because it was still here and that's all that matters. So much love.

jleyank 4y ago

HKH2 4y ago

Isn't misoprostol horse medicine?