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I felt that statement, along with some of the language used in the blog is at odds with the author's goal to... > Part of our work in developing Hare is laying

I felt that statement, along with some of the language used in the blog is at odds with the author's goal to... > Part of our work in developing Hare is laying the groundwork for a collaborative, productive, healthy community that people want to work in The goal to have a healthy community is laudable but it comes from the top and hitting out at others doesn't set a good foundation. I'd recommend rising above by responding to critique without emotion.

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nyanpasu64 4y ago
There was a prominent member of the software community arguing in the LWN thread that authors of compilers which don't statically reject use-after-free (presumably including C and Hare) should be held liable for the consequences of use-after-free errors. And I suspect this person doesn't think the rustc developers should be sued for bugs written in unsafe Rust. I would argue that this person, not Drew DeVault, is hitting out at others.
- staticassertion 4y ago
  Tony Hoare stated that language creators should be responsible for the bugs that users of those languages create. Is Tony Hoare a rust evangelist, or a "moral crusader" ?
  - nyanpasu64 4y ago
    Such a policy would create a chilling effect on the creation of practical languages which don't refuse to compile unproven code (every language in wide use).
    - pwdisswordfish9 4y ago
      Exactly!
- brainwipe 4y ago
  You're right, I do understand that. My issue is with Drew DeVault's blog linked at the top, which I quoted. My advice is that if someone is hitting out at you then reply with statements, evidence and not emotional hyperbolic language. As the chief of any project, you set the tone of the project and blog entries like this are counter-productive if one wishes to run a healthy community. That's solely my point.

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I felt that statement, along with some of the language used in the blog is at odds with the author's goal to... > Part of our work in developing Hare is laying

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nyanpasu64 4y ago
There was a prominent member of the software community arguing in the LWN thread that authors of compilers which don't statically reject use-after-free (presumably including C and Hare) should be held liable for the consequences of use-after-free errors. And I suspect this person doesn't think the rustc developers should be sued for bugs written in unsafe Rust. I would argue that this person, not Drew DeVault, is hitting out at others.
- staticassertion 4y ago
  Tony Hoare stated that language creators should be responsible for the bugs that users of those languages create. Is Tony Hoare a rust evangelist, or a "moral crusader" ?
  - nyanpasu64 4y ago
    Such a policy would create a chilling effect on the creation of practical languages which don't refuse to compile unproven code (every language in wide use).
    - pwdisswordfish9 4y ago
      Exactly!
- brainwipe 4y ago
  You're right, I do understand that. My issue is with Drew DeVault's blog linked at the top, which I quoted. My advice is that if someone is hitting out at you then reply with statements, evidence and not emotional hyperbolic language. As the chief of any project, you set the tone of the project and blog entries like this are counter-productive if one wishes to run a healthy community. That's solely my point.