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That happened after they decided not to release the model.

by lumost 5y ago

Jensson 5y ago
So their goal was to become the next IBM Watson? Parade around tech and try to create hype and hope for the future around it, while hiding all the dirty secrets that shows how limited the technology really is. Their original reasoning for not releasing it "this model is too dangerous to be released to the public" felt very much like a marketing stunt.
- jaimex2 5y ago
  It does feel like the Tesla FSD playbook citing "pending regulatory approval"
cortesoft 5y ago
Well, the decision not to release the model might have been made so that they could license it instead.
- Jensson 5y ago
  They gave a reason why they didn't release it to the public, they said it was too dangerous: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/feb/14/elon-musk-backed-ai-writes-convincing-news-fiction https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/feb/14/elon-musk... But of course then they started selling it to the highest bidder, so I wouldn't really trust what they say. They aren't "OpenAI", at this point they are just regular "ProprietaryAI". I really wonder what goal Elon Musk have with it.
  - onethought 5y ago
    > I really wonder what goal Elon Musk have with it. You mean Sam Altman? Isn't he the CEO?
    - Jensson 5y ago
      Isn't Elon paying for it? I thought the original point was to democratize AI, ie the venture wasn't intended to make money but to help advance humanity, so it was funded by wealthy people who didn't need the money back. But maybe I just fell for their marketing?
      - pyinstallwoes 5y ago
        Elon hasn’t been involved for 2+ years. Didn’t like the direction afaik.
        dhzhzjsbevs 5y ago
        Such a backfire on the narrative setup. Elons so evil amirite? He noped out of there when they started acting shady. Oof.
        andybak 5y ago
        Gosh. You've seen right through us.
        dhzhzjsbevs 5y ago
        Well, yea? You lot stopped caring about being seen long ago.
        andybak 5y ago
        Both your comments indicate that you regard everyone here as some kind of homogonous group who share the same views - whilst you are somehow outside or different. That's a bit like sitting in a traffic jam complaining about the other cars. You are one of us and probably not a huge outlier either in most regard. I don't know why you have ended up with a me vs them perception but it's probably fairly unhealthy and I hope it's something you carry around in real life as well.
  - coffeeblack 5y ago
    Didn’t Musk leave the organization because they started doing things he didn’t like?
    - __alexs 5y ago
      His stated reason for leaving the board was potential future conflicts with things Tesla are working on.

That happened after they decided not to release the model.

by lumost 5y ago

That happened after they decided not to release the model.

So their goal was to become the next IBM Watson? Parade around tech and try to create hype and hope for the future around it, while hiding all the dirty secrets that shows how limited the technology really is. Their original reasoning for not releasing it "this model is too dangerous to be released to the public" felt very much like a marketing stunt.

jaimex2 5y ago
It does feel like the Tesla FSD playbook citing "pending regulatory approval"

cortesoft 5y ago

Well, the decision not to release the model might have been made so that they could license it instead.

Jensson 5y ago
They gave a reason why they didn't release it to the public, they said it was too dangerous: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/feb/14/elon-musk-backed-ai-writes-convincing-news-fiction https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/feb/14/elon-musk... But of course then they started selling it to the highest bidder, so I wouldn't really trust what they say. They aren't "OpenAI", at this point they are just regular "ProprietaryAI". I really wonder what goal Elon Musk have with it.
- onethought 5y ago
  > I really wonder what goal Elon Musk have with it. You mean Sam Altman? Isn't he the CEO?
  - Jensson 5y ago
    Isn't Elon paying for it? I thought the original point was to democratize AI, ie the venture wasn't intended to make money but to help advance humanity, so it was funded by wealthy people who didn't need the money back. But maybe I just fell for their marketing?
    - pyinstallwoes 5y ago
      Elon hasn’t been involved for 2+ years. Didn’t like the direction afaik.
      - dhzhzjsbevs 5y ago
        Such a backfire on the narrative setup. Elons so evil amirite? He noped out of there when they started acting shady. Oof.
        andybak 5y ago
        Gosh. You've seen right through us.
        dhzhzjsbevs 5y ago
        Well, yea? You lot stopped caring about being seen long ago.
        andybak 5y ago
        Both your comments indicate that you regard everyone here as some kind of homogonous group who share the same views - whilst you are somehow outside or different. That's a bit like sitting in a traffic jam complaining about the other cars. You are one of us and probably not a huge outlier either in most regard. I don't know why you have ended up with a me vs them perception but it's probably fairly unhealthy and I hope it's something you carry around in real life as well.
- coffeeblack 5y ago
  Didn’t Musk leave the organization because they started doing things he didn’t like?
  - __alexs 5y ago
    His stated reason for leaving the board was potential future conflicts with things Tesla are working on.