4 ms·

Yep, plus brakes - one typically gets two or so powered hits before the brake pedal also becomes unmanageable after the engine is off.

• CPLX 4y ago
  That’s ridiculous. The brakes work fine without power you just have to push a little harder. Not to drop old man wisdom here but back in the day power brakes were an option that you could pay for.
  • abawany 4y ago
    I have dealt with 1 modern-ish/heavy car that stalled its engine on a downhill slope and my braking ability in this case was reduced to a mere suggestion. If you are strong enough to bring down an unpowered 4000lb+ vehicle to a complete stop on a downslope, more power to you but it is a bit unfeeling to assume that everyone shares your extraordinary pedal-pounding strength. Edit:s/freakish/extraordinary.
    • gonzo 4y ago
      4,000lb Toyota LandCruiser with drum brakes and no vacuum “power assist” enough of a test?
      • winrid 4y ago
        You have a tiny master cylinder compared to a vehicle with power brakes, so it should work fine... this is different than having a big master cylinder + power brakes disabled.
  • ranger_danger 4y ago
    Did you even read the PDF? "holding against WOT requires average of 175 pounds of force on brake pedal"
  • winrid 4y ago
    Yes it was an option, with an appropriately sized master cylinder so you didn't have to push as hard.