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Not sure, but you might still have power steering if you leave it on but in neutral. If you turn it off, you'll definitely lose hydraulic steering assistance.

abawany 4y ago
Yep, plus brakes - one typically gets two or so powered hits before the brake pedal also becomes unmanageable after the engine is off.
- CPLX 4y ago
  That’s ridiculous. The brakes work fine without power you just have to push a little harder. Not to drop old man wisdom here but back in the day power brakes were an option that you could pay for.
  - abawany 4y ago
    I have dealt with 1 modern-ish/heavy car that stalled its engine on a downhill slope and my braking ability in this case was reduced to a mere suggestion. If you are strong enough to bring down an unpowered 4000lb+ vehicle to a complete stop on a downslope, more power to you but it is a bit unfeeling to assume that everyone shares your extraordinary pedal-pounding strength. Edit:s/freakish/extraordinary.
    - gonzo 4y ago
      4,000lb Toyota LandCruiser with drum brakes and no vacuum “power assist” enough of a test?
      - winrid 4y ago
        You have a tiny master cylinder compared to a vehicle with power brakes, so it should work fine... this is different than having a big master cylinder + power brakes disabled.
  - ranger_danger 4y ago
    Did you even read the PDF? "holding against WOT requires average of 175 pounds of force on brake pedal"
  - winrid 4y ago
    Yes it was an option, with an appropriately sized master cylinder so you didn't have to push as hard.
amluto 4y ago
At any respectable speed in a well constructed car with a mechanical steering linkage, power steering is basically unnecessary. My old car used to have glitchy power steering— at 35mph, I could generally tell when it wasn’t working, but it wasn’t very obvious. At 5 mph it was quite obvious when it wasn’t working.
- l1tany11 4y ago
  It’s really dependent on the car. I was driving a C7 Z06 and the power steering cut (it overheated—car warned me well ahead of time). Let me assure you it was not trivial at all to steer the thing. It was shocking how heavy the steering became. I could turn the wheel—barely. Would not really call it control. The next day my friends e90 BMW m3 power steering boiled over. And another friends F80 M4 had multiple power steering failures. They weren’t exactly happy about it either.

abawany 4y ago

Yep, plus brakes - one typically gets two or so powered hits before the brake pedal also becomes unmanageable after the engine is off.

CPLX 4y ago
That’s ridiculous. The brakes work fine without power you just have to push a little harder. Not to drop old man wisdom here but back in the day power brakes were an option that you could pay for.
- abawany 4y ago
  I have dealt with 1 modern-ish/heavy car that stalled its engine on a downhill slope and my braking ability in this case was reduced to a mere suggestion. If you are strong enough to bring down an unpowered 4000lb+ vehicle to a complete stop on a downslope, more power to you but it is a bit unfeeling to assume that everyone shares your extraordinary pedal-pounding strength. Edit:s/freakish/extraordinary.
  - gonzo 4y ago
    4,000lb Toyota LandCruiser with drum brakes and no vacuum “power assist” enough of a test?
    - winrid 4y ago
      You have a tiny master cylinder compared to a vehicle with power brakes, so it should work fine... this is different than having a big master cylinder + power brakes disabled.
- ranger_danger 4y ago
  Did you even read the PDF? "holding against WOT requires average of 175 pounds of force on brake pedal"
- winrid 4y ago
  Yes it was an option, with an appropriately sized master cylinder so you didn't have to push as hard.

amluto 4y ago

At any respectable speed in a well constructed car with a mechanical steering linkage, power steering is basically unnecessary. My old car used to have glitchy power steering— at 35mph, I could generally tell when it wasn’t working, but it wasn’t very obvious. At 5 mph it was quite obvious when it wasn’t working.

l1tany11 4y ago
It’s really dependent on the car. I was driving a C7 Z06 and the power steering cut (it overheated—car warned me well ahead of time). Let me assure you it was not trivial at all to steer the thing. It was shocking how heavy the steering became. I could turn the wheel—barely. Would not really call it control. The next day my friends e90 BMW m3 power steering boiled over. And another friends F80 M4 had multiple power steering failures. They weren’t exactly happy about it either.