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I mean, this comment is wrong. The US has some of the world most stringent food standards in the world. FDA, USDA, OSHA etc. wield immense regulatory power. Is

I mean, this comment is wrong. The US has some of the world most stringent food standards in the world. FDA, USDA, OSHA etc. wield immense regulatory power. Is it perfect? No. You can't sell meat at scale in the USA without the government signing off. It may not be up to your or mine standard, but it has proven successful at getting _quality_ meat into the mouths of millions. Also, I would bet there aren't any cattle housed in a desert in the USA. They'd die immediately due to heat because no way anybody is paying for AC for _cattle_

nicoburns 4y ago
> The US has some of the world most stringent food standards in the world. I can think of at least two issues I have with US food standards: - Very few restrictions on pesticide use. There are nasty chemicals ending up on your food and killing off a lot of the biodiversity where it grows - Antibiotics being fed to livestock. Not good for them, and practically begging for antibiotic-resistant pathogens to develop.
Gordonjcp 4y ago
- Supermancho 4y ago
  The protection goes both ways, you vs the meat and meat vs YOU.
magicalist 4y ago
> I mean, this comment is wrong. The US has some of the world most stringent food standards in the world. FDA, USDA, OSHA etc. wield immense regulatory power. Is it perfect? No. You can't sell meat at scale in the USA without the government signing off. > It may not be up to your or mine standard, but it has proven successful at getting _quality_ meat into the mouths of millions. The GP was maybe a little hyperbolic with "basically no food quality standards", but I don't think "regulatory agencies exist therefore you're wrong" is any better. A lot of people would likely be alarmed at the lack of standards for cattle feed. You can't feed dead cow brains back to cows, for instance, but you can use lots of other parts of dead cows for feed for other animals, and then those animals (and their manure) can be used in feed for cows. And this distinction is almost entirely self enforced by workers whose jobs are largely only rewarded for throughput. > Also, I would bet there aren't any cattle housed in a desert in the USA. They'd die immediately due to heat because no way anybody is paying for AC for _cattle_ You'd be wrong. There are a lot of cattle raised in the Chihuahuan Desert and surrounding arid regions, as just one example.
- Supermancho 4y ago
  > There are a lot of cattle raised in the Chihuahuan Desert The cattle in southern california (Corona) were moved en-masse to the central valley as conditions have changed. Grazing traditionally moves north against the global warming trend.

nicoburns 4y ago

> The US has some of the world most stringent food standards in the world. I can think of at least two issues I have with US food standards: - Very few restrictions on pesticide use. There are nasty chemicals ending up on your food and killing off a lot of the biodiversity where it grows - Antibiotics being fed to livestock. Not good for them, and practically begging for antibiotic-resistant pathogens to develop.

Gordonjcp 4y ago

Supermancho 4y ago
The protection goes both ways, you vs the meat and meat vs YOU.

magicalist 4y ago

> I mean, this comment is wrong. The US has some of the world most stringent food standards in the world. FDA, USDA, OSHA etc. wield immense regulatory power. Is it perfect? No. You can't sell meat at scale in the USA without the government signing off. > It may not be up to your or mine standard, but it has proven successful at getting _quality_ meat into the mouths of millions. The GP was maybe a little hyperbolic with "basically no food quality standards", but I don't think "regulatory agencies exist therefore you're wrong" is any better. A lot of people would likely be alarmed at the lack of standards for cattle feed. You can't feed dead cow brains back to cows, for instance, but you can use lots of other parts of dead cows for feed for other animals, and then those animals (and their manure) can be used in feed for cows. And this distinction is almost entirely self enforced by workers whose jobs are largely only rewarded for throughput. > Also, I would bet there aren't any cattle housed in a desert in the USA. They'd die immediately due to heat because no way anybody is paying for AC for _cattle_ You'd be wrong. There are a lot of cattle raised in the Chihuahuan Desert and surrounding arid regions, as just one example.

Supermancho 4y ago
> There are a lot of cattle raised in the Chihuahuan Desert The cattle in southern california (Corona) were moved en-masse to the central valley as conditions have changed. Grazing traditionally moves north against the global warming trend.