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The majority of nobel laureates hail from just two countries.
by adventured 5y ago
The majority of nobel laureates hail from just two countries.
- sva_ 5y agoUnited States — 400 United Kingdom — 138 Germany — 111 France — 71 Sweden — 32 (tie) Russia — 32 (tie) Japan — 29 Canada — 28 Switzerland — 27 Austria — 22 (tie) Netherlands — 22 (tie) https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/nobel-prizes-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/nobel-pri... Doesn't seem so
- travem 5y agoFrom your link: > Nobel Prizes (including the SRPESMAN) have been awarded 609 times to a total of 943 people and 25 organizations Using the number of 943 people, a majority of Nobel Laureates (meaning more than 50%) would be more than 472 people. US + UK is 538 people which puts them above that threshold of being a majority.
- sva_ 5y agoI guess if you put it that way, the statement might be correct. But the disparity between US and UK being so big, I feel like the argument is a bit weaker. Using the average on such a small set doesn't seem to be so useful if there is such an outlier. There are some interesting lists here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Nobel_laureates_per_capita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Nobel_lau... I guess you could also look at laureates by country born, considering many people went to the US in WW2. But I imagine it'd just devolve into senseless nationalism.
- adhesive_wombat 4y agoComparing the US against any other Western country (and most others) using absolute numbers is usually an exercise in https://xkcd.com/1138/ https://xkcd.com/1138/. It's physically bigger (except maybe similar to Canada and Australia, both of which have big uninhabited areas) and has more people.
- lifeisstillgood 5y agoI do agree with sibling post on the majority of prizes awarded to citizens of two countries. I was wondering how many of them (Einstein being an obvious example) were US citizens when the got the prize but were born elsewhere? "Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled scientific geniuses"
- solveit 5y agoCertainly this is the only reason Germany is behind the UK. They were somehow the centre of the scientific world despite their less-than-ideal political conditions and then they ran their own talent out of their country. (And then they lost the war and the superpowers came and took the remaining talent, which was still formidable)
- seoaeu 5y ago> ran their own talent out of their country Or outright murdered them
- pkaye 5y agoEinstein go his Nobel prize in 1921 while moved to the US in 1933.
- pkaye 5y agoBased on this page, 110 out of 400 were born elsewhere (I searched for number of "born" entries) I can see some cases where they immigrated to the US at a young age so all their education was in the US. So another way to look at it would be where they got their college degree. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_country#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_cou...
- bryanrasmussen 5y agoThere are a couple other non-American or dual citizenship people there, for example there are some marked with "Japanese citizenship" like Osamu Shimomura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osamu_Shimomura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osamu_Shimomura
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- ncmncm 5y agoThere is no Nobel for mathematics. You need something about the Fields Medal.
- daniel-cussen 4y agoAbel prize, and Turing Award. And to an extent the Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel. All same payout, which really matters to give it dignity.