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Scala and Haskell are pretty much "dead" language, I worked with Scala in the past, it was impossible to find poeple willing to work with it so everything was r
by Thaxll 5y ago
Scala and Haskell are pretty much "dead" language, I worked with Scala in the past, it was impossible to find poeple willing to work with it so everything was re-written in Java.
- pjmlp 5y agoI bet plenty of universities will keep using them beyond our lifetimes. From that point of view they are doing quite well.
- blakebreeder 5y agoyou can also take a Latin course in college. how "well" is Latin doing?
- pjmlp 5y agoGood, it is still the official language in Vatican documents, has an updated dictionary, and some European countries see it as a CV requirement by most HR departments when hiring for top management positions.
- cinntaile 5y ago> some European countries see it as a CV requirement by most HR departments when hiring for top management positions. This sounds utterly bizarre, I have a very hard time believing this. Which countries would that be?
- MereInterest 5y agoI can't confirm the specific example, but this sounds like a smoke cover for nepotism and/or classism. If you're not allowed to recruit solely from your personal friend group, requiring that applicants be able to speak a dead language let's you select that same group of people while giving a flimsy justification.
- tptacek 5y agoSo, just like strong idiosyncratic preferences for particular programming languages.
- pjmlp 5y agoIn France for example, it used to be that all good family kids studied Latin, so high league universities and was seen as plus on the CV, at least for 20 years when I used to live there.
- throwaway894345 5y agoThat’s pretty good for a dead language, but not so much for a living one to the OP’s point.
- BrandoElFollito 5y agoFrance would be a typical example, except that this is an urban legend. Context: I graduated from the 3rd best high school in France, then from one of the Grandes Ecoles (~ Ivy League). I was born in the early 70's in Versailles. German and Latin were seen as languages where the best students meet. This was a vision of the parents without getting in the reality. The best high-school students were everywhere. I had Latin and Greek in mid-school and high school like anybody else. Complete loss of time when you are not interested. At university it did not matter at all. Today, when recruiting even for the "really French" companies nobody would think about Latin as a discriminant. It literally wouldn't cross anyone's mind. There are urban legends everywhere, this is one about French education (which is sometimes great, and sometimes completely backwards to the point where I doubt the decisions makers have ever seen kids in real life) As for today (and not 40 years ago), in the class of my son in that same elitist high school, one student does Latin and Greek. Because he is interested in the languages.
- Milner08 5y agoIm not sure its fair to call Scala dead. Its still pretty widely used, at least in companies in London. Hiring is a bit more competitive but we still get some great Scala devs interviewing for the more senior roles. Disclaimer - I work with Scala every day, so am definitely highly biased.
- halfmatthalfcat 5y agoScala is definitely not dead. Sounds like a recruiting failure than anything about the language itself.
- icedchai 5y agoI worked at a Scala shop about 10 years ago. Everyone had their own preferred "dialect", kind of like C++, resulting in too much whining and complaining during code reviews. IMHO, the language is too complex. Also, the compiler was slow, and the IDE support was plain awful (Eclipse was especially bad, IntelliJ was better.) Keep in mind this was over a decade now, so I'm sure things have improved.
- mjr00 5y agoThis was my experience as well. I worked at a place that used Scala primarily in the "better Java" style and enjoyed the language a lot. I moved to a different company and the lead programmer there was a functional purist who insisted on putting scalaz/cats into everything and using Scala as Haskell lite, despite it really not being appropriate for the use case. It really soured me on the language.
- vips7L 5y agoThere’s no bigger productivity killer than scalac and sbt.
- erik_seaberg 5y agoI learned Scala a while ago on the job, and I’m grateful for that opportunity. Nobody on your team volunteered?
- kaba0 5y agoScala just got a new version, which fixes plenty of shortcomings. It also has an option to exclude the null value from the language, so I wouldn’t call it dead by any mean of the word. It is also running splendidly at plenty of companies.
- therealdrag0 5y agoLol. Why would people be unwilling to work in Scala. I moved from Java to Scala and it was a breath of fresh air. We’ve had no trouble hiring people who didn’t know Scala but learned it on the job. It’s not rocket science.