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Organized religion is a different kind of societal harm, where personal religion can be good or bad, organized religion will always be a net negative.
by celticninja 4y ago
Organized religion is a different kind of societal harm, where personal religion can be good or bad, organized religion will always be a net negative.
- dukeofdoom 4y agoOrganized religion helped to defeat Communism, and tempered dictatorial control of many despots in the middle east. So your statement is far removed from reality.
- MOUNOPANO 4y ago
- 93po 4y ago> Organized religion helped to defeat Communism Looks like this is helping the argument that religion is a net negative
- ElectricalUnion 4y ago> Organized religion helped to defeat Communism So it literally did nothing, because Communism doesn't exist in real life? > tempered dictatorial control of many despots in the middle east [citation needed]
- dukeofdoom 4y agoOrganized Religion is literally the only organized opposition left under dictatorial rule. Even tyrants have a hard time going around murdering clerics. But you go ahead and believe what you want.
- throwawaygh 4y ago> Organized religion helped to defeat Communism The cold war propaganda was ratcheted down some time after Gen X; to a super-majority of under-30s, even conservative ones, this probably sounds more like a knave's laugh line than a sincerely held belief.
- dukeofdoom 4y agoIf that's the case, they have no clue what they're talking about. The Pope literally helped to organize and support the main opposition Solidarity movement. With many churches across the world actively working to end it.
- underlying1941 4y agoSeems to me it would be more accurate to say that dictatorial despots helped temper organized religion.
- dukeofdoom 4y agoThis only works to your benefit if the despot is on your side. Even if you are in the inner circle, despots tend to be very temperamental and murder their own supporters on whims of insecurity. So be careful what you wish for.
- tbrownaw 4y ago> organized religion will always be a net negative. There are clear benefits to organized social stuff. For whatever reason, religions appear to be more effective at this than secular groups. One of the more "fun" theories I've seen is that this is because religious beliefs are often nonsensical and costly. For large scale events, I'm not convinced that nations that tried to do away with organized religion got better outcomes for it.
- Tepix 4y agoWhat are you comparing religions against? Boy scouts? Sports clubs?
- coldtea 4y agoActually, it's organized religion that can be good or bad. Personal religion is a personal affair, which seldom concerns society. But organized religion has been critical in the establishment of laws and customs, ethical change, societal norms, national expression against opression, etc.