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The result looks relatively weak IMO. The numbers are less impressive then what they seem, and IMO the numbers look like they were computed in a way that resul

The result looks relatively weak IMO. The numbers are less impressive then what they seem, and IMO the numbers look like they were computed in a way that resulted in what the authors wanted. For example, weekly counts of cardiac arrest calls are computed using a five-week centered moving-average, and COVID-19 and vaccination doses are computed using a three-week centered moving-average. I'd assume that using three weeks for cardiac arrest calls, the numbers would look less correlated.

jimmont 4y ago
Consider submitting this feedback to Nature. It’s generally a reliable source. I’d be curious to see how they respond to your review.
- fock 4y ago
  You know this is published in Nature ... Scientific Reports. And there goes the reliability!
- schiffern 4y ago
  Note that this journal is Scientific Reports (a Nature Portfolio journal), not Nature. Confusing I know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Reports https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Reports > Scientific Reports is an online peer-reviewed open access scientific mega journal published by Nature Portfolio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_journal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_journal > A mega journal (also mega-journal and megajournal) is a peer-reviewed academic open access journal designed to be much larger than a traditional journal by exercising low selectivity among accepted articles. It was pioneered by PLOS ONE. This "very lucrative publishing model" was soon emulated by other publishers. Basically it's bunk-for-hire.
- someotherperson 4y ago
  The domain is a bit misleading. It's not Nature, it's Scientific Reports, and it's not exactly a great journal[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Reports#Controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Reports#Controversi...
admissionsguy 4y ago
- water-your-self 4y ago
  Done. They still reduce particulate spread from coughing and sneezing. Masks seem silly until that woman doesn't cover her cough.
  - cas14655 4y ago
    Masks seem silly no matter what if you understand how corona spreads or if you know how after 2 years, in diagrams, you can't see a difference between unmasked/cloth masked/ffp2,N95 masked countries or even counties.
- linkgoron 4y ago
  It's quite easy to understand how face-masks reduce the amount of saliva that's released into the air in a room when someone coughs or talks, and there's also a reason why masks are used in hospitals and in operating rooms way before COVID. Masks are not a 100% solution, and they obviously have some issues (comfort, heat as well as environmental), but it's not surprising that they help with a disease that spreads using saliva and other "respiratory droplets".
  - cas14655 4y ago
    Except for two things: a) that corona spreads through aerosols which we have known since mid 2020 b) Mask don't even work against Influenza which actually is transmitted via droplets.
    - buildbot 4y ago
      A - masks reduce aerosols as well: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41370-021-00385-7 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41370-021-00385-7 B - They do: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7169241/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7169241/

jimmont 4y ago

Consider submitting this feedback to Nature. It’s generally a reliable source. I’d be curious to see how they respond to your review.

fock 4y ago
You know this is published in Nature ... Scientific Reports. And there goes the reliability!
schiffern 4y ago
Note that this journal is Scientific Reports (a Nature Portfolio journal), not Nature. Confusing I know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Reports https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Reports > Scientific Reports is an online peer-reviewed open access scientific mega journal published by Nature Portfolio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_journal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_journal > A mega journal (also mega-journal and megajournal) is a peer-reviewed academic open access journal designed to be much larger than a traditional journal by exercising low selectivity among accepted articles. It was pioneered by PLOS ONE. This "very lucrative publishing model" was soon emulated by other publishers. Basically it's bunk-for-hire.
someotherperson 4y ago
The domain is a bit misleading. It's not Nature, it's Scientific Reports, and it's not exactly a great journal[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Reports#Controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Reports#Controversi...

admissionsguy 4y ago

water-your-self 4y ago
Done. They still reduce particulate spread from coughing and sneezing. Masks seem silly until that woman doesn't cover her cough.
- cas14655 4y ago
  Masks seem silly no matter what if you understand how corona spreads or if you know how after 2 years, in diagrams, you can't see a difference between unmasked/cloth masked/ffp2,N95 masked countries or even counties.
linkgoron 4y ago
It's quite easy to understand how face-masks reduce the amount of saliva that's released into the air in a room when someone coughs or talks, and there's also a reason why masks are used in hospitals and in operating rooms way before COVID. Masks are not a 100% solution, and they obviously have some issues (comfort, heat as well as environmental), but it's not surprising that they help with a disease that spreads using saliva and other "respiratory droplets".
- cas14655 4y ago
  Except for two things: a) that corona spreads through aerosols which we have known since mid 2020 b) Mask don't even work against Influenza which actually is transmitted via droplets.
  - buildbot 4y ago
    A - masks reduce aerosols as well: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41370-021-00385-7 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41370-021-00385-7 B - They do: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7169241/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7169241/